Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Jun 2, 2013 at 1:25 AM Post #10,471 of 16,931
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Yeah good point...I prefer clean, impactful bass, forward, intimate mids, and non-fatiguing treble with low sibilance. Good separation and imaging. A wide soundstage. A warmish sound signature. 

 
Based on reviews from many source, the H-200 is very close to wait you're asking for, but there is also the BA200. I know that ljokerl will have better suggestions. :3
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM Post #10,472 of 16,931
Yeah good point...I prefer clean, impactful bass, forward, intimate mids, and non-fatiguing treble with low sibilance. Good separation and imaging. A wide soundstage. A warmish sound signature. 


The BA200 hits mostly all of those points except soundstage width. It's a very satisfying soundstage, well rounded with height and very good depth, but just good width. It's enveloping without being congested and closed in at all.

I don't know if it's the best under 300 but it's absolutely easy to recommend under 200. Hopefully others can chime in.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 3:01 AM Post #10,474 of 16,931
Originally Posted by Liveartonline /img/forum/go_quote.gif

..I prefer clean, impactful bass, forward, intimate mids, and non-fatiguing treble with low sibilance. Good separation and imaging. A wide soundstage. A warmish sound signature. 

 
I've owned the BA200 & (currently own) the H-200.  Both are terrific phones.  While some here have found the H-200 to have forward mids; to my ears, they're positioned quite neutrally in that I wouldn't consider them forward or recessed.  The BA200's mids are, relative to the H-200's mids, more forward & warmer in tone.
 
I found the midrange on both phones to be quite smooth & euphonic.  The BA200's mids are a bit more analog-sounding (reminiscent of the dusty warmth some vinyl rigs tend to emphasize) while the H-200's mids are more tonally neutral and clean.  Separation & imaging are excellent between both phones.  The BA200 might get the edge in soundstage width. but both phones have excellent depth (probably on par with each other).  That being said, I don't find the H-200 to sound particularly constrained.  In fact, it seems to be able to throw a pretty wide stage.. depending on what the recording (quality) offers up (as well as what you upstream gear is capable of).
 
The H-200 is a tad brighter than the BA200.. but neither phone's signature seems predisposed to sibilance (unless, again, your source files serve it up).  The BA200 is probably the safer choice between the two.. but I don't think gambling on the H-200 for this aspect is risky at all.  One thing to consider is that the BA200 needs a deep fit to attain it's intended signature.  It's not Etymotic deep.. but it's close.  The H-200 can get its groove on with a comparatively shallower fit.  The H-200 is bulkier, relative to the sleek, svelte BA200, so if you anticipate using either of these phones during (even) moderate physical activity, the BA200 might be the better choice.
 
I think both the BA200 & H-200 would fit your needs in terms of sound.. but the BA200 might suit you better since you explicitly stated that you wanted something with a 'warmer' sound.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 3:03 AM Post #10,475 of 16,931
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You can purchase VC1000 for $119 US on eBay, so pretty much neck and neck with R-50 $120 price tag.

 
Ah, gotcha 
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I'm glad the VC1000 isn't detachable like VC02. After spending some time with VC02, I realized the detachable stuff is more of a hassle than it is of convenience.

 
After fishing my VC02 left driver from under my desk for 2nd time this week, I tend to agree. The VSonic GR01 didn't have a detachable cable either. Still unclear on what the difference is supposed to be between that and the VC1000. 
 
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Has anyone tried the Aurisonics ASG-1 1.2? I'm looking for the best mids and soundstage in an iem under $300. 


I tried a 1.1 rev shortly. Seemed to be lacking in treble so I didn't really give it another go. Out of what I have heard at length your description sounds like a Sennheiser IE8 (not much for the intimate mids, but everything else), Yamaha EPH-100 (soundstage is not that wide but it has good layering; treble is not super-smooth but avoids harshness and sibilance), and Earsonics SM2 (again, not that wide but nicely 3-dimensional. No harshness/sibilance). I am lacking hands-on experience with the BA200 and many other sets that are popular these days. The market is simply too crowded to keep up with.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 6:10 AM Post #10,477 of 16,931
why don't dj's use iem which offer better isolation?


Because the DJ's tend to put their headphones on and take them off frequently, for example when queuing tracks, monitoring or mastering.

Doing that with IEMs would be a massive chore and rather uncomfortable.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 7:51 AM Post #10,478 of 16,931
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Because the DJ's tend to put their headphones on and take them off frequently, for example when queuing tracks, monitoring or mastering.

Doing that with IEMs would be a massive chore and rather uncomfortable.

15 year experienced DJ here. I've used headphones for the past 14 years. Tried out IEMs with the Xone92. Perfection. My mixes have been coming out even better! It's not the norm to use IEMs, but more and more DJs are using them!
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 8:51 AM Post #10,479 of 16,931
do you guys think this is fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Shipping-NEW-Sennheiser-IE-80-Headphones-Earphones-NEW-IN-BOX-/190849880760?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6f8a12b8
its tempting
 
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM Post #10,480 of 16,931
Great comparison FlySweep. Thanks for that. Could you post that in the BA200 thread? I think it would be of use to people there.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM Post #10,481 of 16,931
Iv been using a pair of VSonic GR02 Bass Edition for over a year. Though I really loved the set overall, I really felt it lacking in the bass department. Didnt quite "Feel" the punch/thump much with these. Now that they have developed an issue (the left bud keeps shutting down all the time, starts working when I tweak the plug. That obviously does not work when I am on the move, and even when I am stationary, I have to keep tweaking it from time to time), I figured I might have to upgrade soon. So I dont have a very big budget (say about INR 5000 ~ USD 100 tops after extending my budget as much as I possibly can), and I am in India, so options are limited too, kind of. I havent been able to figure out the additional cost (customs/taxes/duties) of importing sets. So I need advice on which set to go in for next. As I had said, I really loved the GR02 BEs, except for the bass, which was actually what I had been looking for when I purchased them. So I want something similar overall, with a lot more bass. And they have to be durable too, hate to spend so much on a set and have it breaking on me. I am not a very rough user per se, but still. Some of the names from the top of my head are (In no specific order of preference, and in no way am I limited to these):
> Brainwavz M5/M2/ProAlpha (dont know whether this would be an upgrade or not)
> Fischer Audio. Now im confused between 3 of their sets, Eterna, Silver Bullets, and Consonance.
> Shure SE215
> Meelectronics M11+/M21
> SoundMagic E10
> Audio Technica CKM500
> Anything Else
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 10:52 AM Post #10,482 of 16,931
The seller ships from Guangzhou, China, so it could be a knock off. Chinese sellers sell many knock offs on ebay for a reduced price, like fake badminton rackets and such. I guess you can take a chance if you think the reward outweighs the risks here.
 
Jun 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM Post #10,485 of 16,931
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So I checked his feedback on ebay and several people have said that his merchandise are cheap copies of the real product. I'd be careful here.

 
It's better to be extra careful of anything bought on eBay.
 

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