Lowless? MP3 bit?
Feb 15, 2010 at 12:48 AM Post #46 of 48
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Originally Posted by aimlink /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Training??? I thought it was supposed to be easy and hence a travesty of audiophile-dom to encode your CD's to anything more compressed than a lossless format like FLAC or ALAC.
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What these threads (all 10,000 of them) always miss is this: it doesn't matter at all whether it's easy or hard to tell the difference. It doesn't matter whether the difference is highly significant or not significant at all. Lossy encoding CANNOT POSSIBLY improve sound. Best case, it offers now-irrelevant advantages of space and bandwidth savings, and leaves the music intact. So, at best it gives you something you don't need and doesn't steal anything from you.

Storage is cheap. Bandwidth is cheap. These facts blow away the basic reasons for lossy compression to exist. Why would you go to the trouble of processing a file when the effort gets you absolutely nowhere? Aside from which, lossless compression eliminates quality issues while still providing approximately a 2:1 space savings.

Stick a fork in lossy. It's done.
 
Feb 15, 2010 at 12:51 AM Post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by DrBenway /img/forum/go_quote.gif
What these threads (all 10,000 of them) always miss is this: it doesn't matter at all whether it's easy or hard to tell the difference. It doesn't matter whether the difference is highly significant or not significant at all. Lossy encoding CANNOT POSSIBLY improve sound. Best case, it offers now-irrelevant advantages of space and bandwidth savings, and leaves the music intact. So, at best it gives you something you don't need and doesn't steal anything from you.

Storage is cheap. Bandwidth is cheap. These facts blow away the basic reasons for lossy compression to exist. Why would you go to the trouble of processing a file when the effort gets you absolutely nowhere? Aside from which, lossless compression eliminates quality issues while still providing approximately a 2:1 space savings.

Stick a fork in lossy. It's done.



We remain on different wavelengths and this is why you'll likely continue to have issue with 'these threads'. Your comments aren't rocket science or particularly revelatory, hidden wisdom that is obvious but not easily seen.
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Read again, and consider what you are missing.
 
Feb 15, 2010 at 12:55 AM Post #48 of 48
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Originally Posted by En_R /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Lots of tension in this thread- as usual regarding these topics =\

Here is a link to a LOT of listening tests done to distinguish the differences between lossy and lossless files (hell they made the formats
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Hydrogenaudio Forums -> Listening Tests

Edit: Here is a more specific link regarding MP3 320k transparency. Is mp3@320kbps really transparent? - Hydrogenaudio Forums



Thanks for the info. These threads will come and go and it will always be a tussle between the pragmatists and some audiophiles making irresponsible sweeping claims.
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