My head has been exploding trying to find a good hard drive based digital recorder (well, there is the Nagra V, but forgettaboutit...). I know someone else has brought this baby to our attention, but this unit looks great!

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C2092/

According to a Nordic iRiver website ( ) the new iRiver IHP-120, aside from a 20 gig hard drive - it has a mic in jack! Just what I've been waiting for!

The ipod is cool and all, but this iRiver just looks baaaaaaddd! Call me still stuck a little on the rugged G-Shock look of the late 90s. I really like the look - much of that being plenty of inputs. Think different!

Well, that's another push for this unit. Can't wait. It's supposed to be here this month. Oh yeah, a Canadian audio seller has announced the price at US$369. Not bad!

PLEASE when someone sees it on sale someplace, let us know!

$369 Canuck ?! Wow, that's a drastic price difference from the IHP-100 that began selling at $400 USD (and higher). This means that I can (and fellow US citizens) expect to see them sell for around $300 possibly lower. Good news indeed. Could you tell me where you saw that Canadian price ? Was in Ingram ?

The search is over for me. Like you my head has been ready to explode from trying to find the best DAP available. It looks to me like the iHP-120 is the best. And I agree, I really like the looks as well...so cool looking.

Oh, and, uh, Sweet Spot? Calm down there and read a bit more closely.

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Just for your info. Here are some prices:


http://www.neutronexpress.com/prod.c...B_MP3_JUKE_BOX


Here is that "nordic" page, which give a nice clean run down of features and also mentions Mac OS support (I certainly hope so!)

http://www.irivernordic.com/products.php?pid=21

Also check out this page (really nice if you can read German!0

http://www.hifi-regler.de/shop/irive...75e26c4875fe7c


Here a babblefish translation of the main text.

MP3-Player, pocket format, 20 GB memory Feature of the iRiver iHP-120: Non removable disk Player with 20 GB storage capacity of data formats: MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, WMA, ASF, WAV first-class remote maintenance (see detail remote maintenance of iRiver iHP-120. Dimensions: approx.. 60 x 105 x 19 mm weight: approx.. 160 g alternating current adapters: 5.0 V direct current, 2 A operating system: WIN 98 SE/ME/2000/XP

The iRiver iHP-120 in the test: Preface: In the test of the Stereoplay was the iRiver iHP-100. This MP3-Player is identically constructed with the iRiver iHP-120, had however 20 GB memory. Therefore the test values of the Stereoplay can be transferred also right to the iHP-120.

The very critical test editors of the Stereoplay lent the desired Bestnote to the iRiver iHP-100 in the expenditure 10/2003 "STEREOPLAY REFERENCE".

From the result: "in an important point stereoplay the Korean manufacturer more iRiver a special acknowledgment would like to express. For the practical dimensioning of the headphone exit. That is now finally with low impedance enough, so that it does not come by the connection of headphones to the bass waste. The weak bass was so far almost mandatory (with MP3-Playern), which had had again and again to criticize stereoplay in many test who doing gene of MP3-Playern. By the low impedance exits now also the frequency response afflicted with load falls linialglatt out and makes possible a very good headphone sound. with the iRiver iHP-100 " and further: "an important extra, i.e. the direct photograph function, has only also otherwise exzellent equipped iHP-100 from more iRiver to to offer. But are available "summarized a LINE and an optical digital entrance: "the iRiver iHP-100 is exzellent equipped. thus both on the MP3-Player, and on the remote maintenance highly soluble displays are." P

erformance data iRiver iHP 120: This compact MP3-Player is equipped with 20 GB a large non removable disk, on which the user can store each quantity of data and music files. USB 2.0-Schnittstelle: With the USB 2,0 high-speed connection reaches the iRiver iHP120 a data transmission rate of outstanding 480 megabit per second of the IRiver iHP 120 had a eight-lined LCD Grafikanzeige with white LED background lighting, which offers a very comfortable user surface. The iRiver iHP-120 supplies thereby detailed information and makes a comfortable navigation possible by all noted data. Multi codec Player and firmware Upgrade: The iRiver iHP-120 supports the digital audio formats MP3, WMA, ASF and WAV. by firmware Upgrades, which can be downloaded free of charge on the iRiver Wesite, has the user always access to the newest features and improvements for its MP3-Player. With the digital optical entrance and exit of the iRiver iHP-120 you can transmit data without quality loss into both directions. The FM fM-Tuner integrated in the iRiver iHP-120 is able to store 20 channels. Language recording for user-defined sampling rate: With the AGC function (adaptive Gain control) of the iRiver iHP-120 the noise level of the environment can be regulated, in order to optimize during the language recording the input level of a certain source - ambient noise "is faded out" quasi. Also the attitudes of the recording quality can be individually changed at the iHP-120. You look for and find very fast simple navigation with iD3-TagDurch simple navigation with ID3-Tag in the iRiver iHP-120 to files according to search criteria such as artists, album, kind of music, title and file. The iRiver iHP120 offers an enormous number of listings and files: Up to 1.000 listings and up to 5.000 files recognize the iHP-120.

Fast loading and 16 hours of rendition duration: The integrated loadable lithium polymer battery of the iRiver iHP-120 can be completely charged in only three hours and makes one rendition duration possible of up to 16 hours. Different sound effects by six sound pre-setting:

The iRiver iHP-120 supports five given sound attitudes (normal, skirt, jazz, classical period, UltraBass) as well as a user-defined sound attitude.

Technical data of the iRiver iHP-120: Audio Number of channels: STEREO (L + R) frequency range: 20 cycles per second - 20 kHz power output headphone: 20 mW(L) + 20 mW(R) - 16 W with max. Volume frequency characteristic: ± 2 railways (exit) signal-to-noise ratio 90 dB(L), 90 dB(R) - MP3 FM radio frequency range: 87.5 MHz - 108 MHz signal-to-noise ratio: 50 railways receiving mode: Cord antenna at head/earphones of data formats type of file: MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3, WMA, ASF, WAV bit rate: Supports 32 kbps - kbps day ID3 V1 day, ID3 V2 2,0, ID3 V2 3,0 current supply alternating current adapter 5.0 V direct current 2 A battery loadable lithium polymer battery integrated 320 (1300 mAh) general dimensions (B x T x H): 60 x 19 x 105 mm weight: approx.. 160 g temperature range: (normal operation) 0°C - 40°C playing time: MP3/WMA/ASF: approx.. 16 hours

iHP-120 is not perfect, but is probably the best large-capacity DAP on the market. i have one on order for $300

would like to see..

most polished design (like iPod)
replaceable battery (like Nomad NX)
40+ gb models

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$300?! From where, man! Tell us!

Yes please!


Austonia. can you post a link to a photo of the verified final design? I've seen two! I think this is the final design:

http://gadgetphotogallery.i4u.com/sq...os&photo_id=21

I don't mind a little bit rough looking. The iPod is beautiful, but we are talking a piece of equipment and i kind of like the "means business" look.

I have a question about this player. The description says that you can use it as an external hard drive- great.
My question is would it be possible to load images (jpeg, tiff) directly from an external card reader. Has anyone tried this with any HD player, I mean get a card reader plug it to the player and download the content. It would be extremely useful for digicam users.

If the player uses USB then this is highly unlikely...as one of the two devices would have to function as a USB host...that's why you normally only see this kind of thing with firewire devices

I'm not sure what you're saying. Like can u put jpegs on the hardddrive? It's a hardrive of course you can! But it won't show up when u view it in the player. It only shows up when u connect it again to a computer.

I believe blr is talking about an external flash card reader (i.e. compact flash, smart media, secure digital, sony media stick, etc.).

Blr, are you thinking of trying to use your ihp-100 as a way to get pictures off of your digital camera memory after you fill it up? Sounds like a novel idea, but I don't think it will work.

Maybe in the futuure, an HD based mp3 player will also have a built in slot for flash cards, making it almost like a PDA.

i just wish there was a 40 gig version.

rizumu i tried to send you a PM but your box is full. i don't want to publicise where it is on sale for cheap because it seems like a price error. however i will be happy to share with anyone from Head-Fi who PM's me and will keep it to themselves. I expect the iHP120 will probably retail for $400+, so at $300 it is a good deal. but don't get too excited yet, no one in the US has it for sale yet. You can just make an order now, and they will charge you when it does ship. It is at a reputable, brand-name etailer so I don't think there will be any problems unless a huge mass of people try to get it. So let's keep it small and maybe head-fi'ers get the best DAP at the best Price =)

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That's exactly what I'm talking about GSTom1. I know that Archos has a multimedia jukebox with built-in card slots, just wondered if iRiver can do the same thing with external card reader attachment.
The Archos seems like a great all-in-one solution for portable music movies and picture download but from what I read is not as good for music as a dedicated HD player.

According to the US iRiver site, Mac support is there but kinda limited. The way it works is in Mac OS X.2, the drive will show up like a disc, and you just drag songs to the icon, kinda like the Archos IIRC, and they'll be there to be played on the unit itself. The thing is the tags won't be recognized, so you can't use them to browse the songs (album, artist, etc).