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Thanks for the help.
@derek800--Do you mean the SRH440s would improve more noticably with an amp than the SRH840s?
@Bilavideo--I've been considering the SR-80i... I'm only worried they won't have enough bass for me. Also, FWIR, they leak sound and are somewhat fragile. I need durable 'phones that I can wear on my neck when not in use. Some people say they also have comfort issues.
I want something that doesn't sound analytical or 'boring' but still has good quality sound. I want to really enjoy my music. Would you guys still recommend Grados?
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The SR-80i should have more bass than the original SR-80, if only because they come with the flat pads rather than the doughnuts. When I got mine, I had doughnuts, which push your ear back a little further from the driver. This opens them up a little more but it has an impact on the amount of bass you get. Back then, the conventional wisdom was that the SR-60 had better bass precisely because it relied on flats. To open up the SR-60 more, people were doing "quarter mods" where they cut a little hole in the pad, about the size of a quarter, to let in more treble. Having a closer relationship with the driver, while removing a possible HF filter, gave folks a kind of "best of both worlds" solution.
I've only had "sound leakage" issues in bed. If my wife is trying to sleep, I can't really rock out. I don't know if there could be similar issues with closed cans. I guess it depends on how quiet things have to be in the bedroom. But I've taken my Grados everywhere - doctor's and dentist's offices, mall walking, lake walking, working at my desk, even the library. The only place where I've found my Grados to not work is in road trips. The open-air phones have no sound isolation. In or on planes, trains and automobiles, you lose something when the rumble of the conveyance mixes in with the music. On a road trip earlier this year, I came to the conclusion that I needed a Plan B, which is how I got into in-ear phones (which have the kind of isolation that can be eerie in other contexts).
In terms of fragility, I think the more expensive Grados would be more problematic. When you have expensive mahogany or cast-aluminum shells, you're more apt to worry about where you set them down and how. The lower-end Grados are plastic. It's light and cheap. They don't really scratch or scuff much, and if they did, who would care? With the exception of the 325, the Prestige Series Grados are quite light.
That brings me to the "comfort issues." I'm 44 so my memory goes back several generations of headphone styles. Before there were in-ear phones, there were earbuds. Before there were earbuds, there were very lightweight headphones, with drivers about the size of a quarter. Before that, there were these big, bulky, closed-can headphones which were meant to be worn within a few feet of the headphone jack of a home system.
My point is this: I come from a generation where "on-ears" headphones were unheard of - because just about all of them were "on the ears." If you wore them continuously, you eventually succumbed to ear fatigue and had to take them off for a while. But those were big, bulky, heavy headphones. The plastic Prestige-series Grados are lightweight (I think Grado made the GS-1000 and PS-1000 heavier on purpose, to give them a heft to bespeak their serious pretensions). If you leave them on for long periods, you may get a certain amount of ear fatigue, depending on how tightly you wear them and how big your ears are. The "ear fatigue" issue has been raised by a generation of wearers who have worn in-ear phones, ear buds or headphones that were either ultra lightweight or around the ears (with no pressure on the pinnae).
Whether you have comfort issues (ear fatigue) will depend on whether you ear the phones tight or loose and how long you wear them continuously. If you wear them for hours and hours with no break, you could experience headphone fatigue (a comfort issue common in my day but less common now because of all the styles that don't put much, if any, stress on the pinnae). I've experienced this a handful of times. On some of those occasions, I've removed the headphones for a little while and come back to them. On others, I've simply moved them forward, to take pressure off the backs of my ears. I've also turned the phones, at times, to balance them in such a way that there was less pressure to rest on my ears.
Grados aren't your only choices, but I just wanted to point these things out because I think Grados sometimes get a bad rap. The main reason to go with Grados is the sound, which is very clear and detailed. I like the open-air design, which lets me stay connected with my environment. The only times I don't like that are when I need serious isolation.