Does anyone else hear detail in Trance music
Oct 2, 2009 at 1:35 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 42
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So I was in a thread talking about asking about what should be my next set of headphones be. Then we got into bit rates and what effect they would have on the detail and certain other things.

Well I listen very closely to my music (primarily trance and electronic, but rock too) and said I wouldn't want to ruin the detail that I hear if my bit rate was too low. So another user said it was funny that I try to hear detail in trance, now I have nothing wrong with that comment, nor do I take it personally. This thread isn't me venting or trying to get backing.

ANYWAYS, this thread is just me being curious to see if other people here think there are deatail to be heard in trance or electronic music. Stuff some people might possibly miss. Or if you think its just simle music whatever your preference
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Oct 2, 2009 at 1:46 AM Post #2 of 42
You should look up a user called Patrick82. He hears MAD detail in trance, apparently. Just don't go spending 8000 dollars in power cords after talking to him.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 2:14 AM Post #4 of 42
to me the synth is one of the most detailed of instruments, you can just hear it cut through any other instrument in the mix and they are typically soaked in reverb. i have k702's btw.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 3:31 AM Post #5 of 42
There is a difference between hearing the "detail" of a guitar pick plucking a string and the head of a drumstick making contact with a cymbal, versus the "detail" of hearing multiple layers of samples and effects.

The "detail" you will usually hear about here and in regards to bitrates, is the first set of examples I listed.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 3:40 AM Post #6 of 42
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ANYWAYS, this thread is just me being curious to see if other people here think there are deatail to be heard in trance or electronic music.


Well of course! One of my all time favorite follow the bouncing ball tracks would be The Box by Orbital. There's some old school for you.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 4:22 AM Post #7 of 42
Oh, I see what you did here.

I just found it amusing that it clashed with my thought of what detail is. To me, it just doesn't seem that rewarding discovering an electronic nuance compared to an actual (yes I did go there) instrument with all its characteristics of itself and the player.

(Re-reading that, it sounds kind of lopsided no matter what, so I'll just leave it at that.)
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 4:34 AM Post #8 of 42
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Oh, I see what you did here.

I just found it amusing that it clashed with my thought of what detail is. To me, it just doesn't seem that rewarding discovering an electronic nuance compared to an actual (yes I did go there) instrument with all its characteristics of itself and the player.

(Re-reading that, it sounds kind of lopsided no matter what, so I'll just leave it at that.)


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Oct 2, 2009 at 6:23 AM Post #9 of 42
This is funny since I have listened to a few trance albums on my headphone set up, and I do hear more clarity in the music, but I mean since it is a digitally created sound rather than an analog instrument etc., there is a limit to what you can hear. But I think you would be surprised nowadays with the advanced technology and creativity of some trance artists/producers/DJs since the sounds are now more complex and in depth than ever.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 2:07 PM Post #12 of 42
Yet electronica needs very good and resolved upper mids! Staxes do most perfectly with electronica.
 
Oct 2, 2009 at 6:13 PM Post #13 of 42
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, I see what you did here.

I just found it amusing that it clashed with my thought of what detail is. To me, it just doesn't seem that rewarding discovering an electronic nuance compared to an actual (yes I did go there) instrument with all its characteristics of itself and the player.

(Re-reading that, it sounds kind of lopsided no matter what, so I'll just leave it at that.)


There are a few bands out there that use real instruments and still fall under the category of electronica. STS9 is a prime example and all of there cd's are filled with detail and subtle little things.
 
Oct 3, 2009 at 12:00 AM Post #14 of 42
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, I see what you did here.

I just found it amusing that it clashed with my thought of what detail is. To me, it just doesn't seem that rewarding discovering an electronic nuance compared to an actual (yes I did go there) instrument with all its characteristics of itself and the player.

(Re-reading that, it sounds kind of lopsided no matter what, so I'll just leave it at that.)


I can understand where you were coming from, again I was wondering if anyone shared the same thoughts I did.
 
Oct 3, 2009 at 12:00 AM Post #15 of 42
Not sure what you mean by Trance (the commercial side of it?), but i believe good Goa/Psychedelic Trance can have *a lot* of details, as this genre is usually relaying on plenty of sounds/layers being played at the same time.
That's probably the most complex and interesting kind of electronic music, along with the oldschool ambient (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, etc).

One good and accessible album for the mainstream ear to discover this genre would be the ultraclassic "Twisted" by Hallucinogen (same guy who's the brain of the famous Shpongle crew).
It's almost 15 years old now, but it still sounds a lot fresher than pretty much everything else coming out these days. If you like it, we can continue the discussion on the goa/psytrance thread
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