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That is my guess too. From reports that I read it is always the output impedance that causes this sort of problems for armature iems.
 
 

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That is another reason why I opted for the DX100. I wanted more performance and a excellent DAP to use with my Customs when I eventually go that route. Most likely towards the middle of this year... Choices, choices, choices lol.
 

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That is another reason why I opted for the DX100. I wanted more performance and a excellent DAP to use with my Customs when I eventually go that route. Most likely towards the middle of this year... Choices, choices, choices lol.
 

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I am graduating soon. Maybe I should get a job in Hawaii and we can lie down at the beach and enjoy our audio together. Lol.

 
uelover, to clarify my comment on Sony gumstick not using an opamp, I was referencing this post - http://www.head-fi.org/t/578330/teclast-x19hd-now-available/180#post_8039996
 
ClieOS says the SigmaTel chip has an internal opamp which the cheap Sony gumsticks use, however in the Cube C30 and other devices they add another opamp, according to him.
 
So [if he is correct] then the Sony gumstick at max volume, connected to the Studio V [in portable amplifier mode], should theoretically result in the same sound.  However, I am open to refutation.
 

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For any reason, it is not the hiss or noise that makes me dislike the Studio V.
 
On armature iem it sounds lean and bright.
 
On dynamics iem it sounds full.
 
You can figure out the rest of the technicalities.
 
ES5 is never a lean and bright sounding iem.

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That's fine but I was only commenting on your assumption of it's output impedance and adapter which is only for said noise and not impedance matching of any sort. I clearly stated that your preferrence may not in any way be related to noise and welcome it. The latest Studio dynamic FW has a less forward character to the previous. Don't know which you heard or if it would make a difference for you but could explain some of the divide. We're going through some of this with RoCoo FWs as well. Part of the small Far East maker syndrome that all these devices seem to have in one form or another.

 
Yah... the clip+ has had it's issues too though, like the entire musical spectrum being out of pitch, lol

So which firmware do you prefer? The stock one (is that the original dynamic firmware?) or the updated dynamic firmware? I just don't want to have any issues using all my music on my 32 GB SD card and I know for sure the new firmware addresses this issue. I still want jack to release another firmware to make assessing music a bit easier and it would be perfect. I'll drop him a PM and harass him lol
 
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That's fine but I was only commenting on your assumption of it's output impedance and adapter which is only for said noise and not impedance matching of any sort. I clearly stated that your preferrence may not in any way be related to noise and welcome it. The latest Studio dynamic FW has a less forward character to the previous. Don't know which you heard or if it would make a difference for you but could explain some of the divide. We're going through some of this with RoCoo FWs as well. Part of the small Far East maker syndrome that all these devices seem to have in one form or another.

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Yah... the clip+ has had it's issues too though, like the entire musical spectrum being out of pitch, lol

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Well kiteki the clip+ seems to be the most popular DAP here on headfi for its price to performance ratio. Also its very portable and has SD support if I'm not correct.
 



 
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So which firmware do you prefer? The stock one (is that the original dynamic firmware?) or the updated dynamic firmware? I just don't want to have any issues using all my music on my 32 GB SD card and I know for sure the new firmware addresses this issue. I still want jack to release another firmware to make assessing music a bit easier and it would be perfect. I'll drop him a PM and harass him lol
 


 

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Standard 1223 Rocoo overall on that player and the Studio BA is a neat sig on it too. Wouldn't know on the Studio and not having issue with my 32gb scandisk card and + 1223 FWs. We can continue in PMs or HiSound thread.
 
I'd love to hear a T51 at some point but past threads have scared me off buying one. Same would have been true of the Hisounds due to FWs if it wasn't for the auction but the current ones seem OK and functional overall.
 
I also own a Clip+ and for someone to think that every device with the same bits is sonically identical is silly. Some of their own FW updates come with distinct sonic character changes and none sound just like Rockbox to me.
 
The pitch thing is basically cured in Rockbox and is way overstated for consumer use.
 
Over it's history, the Piano A tuning frequency has spent more time well above 440hz than at it .
 
The pitch of A at 440hz has been the standard since 1939 but pitches have risen a little, particularly in Eastern European countries, which often wish pianos to be tuned to A 444 or even a bit above. Some concert halls in the UK and European countries have two pianos on site, one tuned to A440 and one tuned to A 444. This is to keep the pianos stable, as constantly raising and lowering the pitch is not good for the piano; it makes it hard for the piano tuner to make the tuning stable.
 
440 being 441 or 2 on a clip with the way it gets used is a non issue except by those that want to make it one.

 

 
It's not like the pitch of a piano, if you recorded 3 minutes of music and played it on the clip+ it became several seconds longer, that is pretty severe, lol.
 
I'm not saying the clip+ is a bad device, I'm sure it's excellent for it's size and price from everything I've read, I'm just refuting goodvibes comments on Asian companies and "magic IC's".
 
Firmware and software should ideally have very limited impact, unless it's aiming to enhance the sound.
 
There should be a seperate thread for Clip+ versus HM-801 type discussion imho
 

 
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It's not like the pitch of a piano, if you recorded 3 minutes of music and played it on the clip+ it became several seconds longer, that is pretty severe, lol.

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What are included in the extra 3 minutes?
 



 

 
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Kiteki are you talking about time stretching ? This is used with sample wave in songs in order to keep the correct pitch, is the Clip doing that ?

 
The defective firmware on some Clip+ versions stretched a 3 minute song to 3 minutes and several seconds, that lowers the pitch since the song is playing slower than usual.

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The defective firmware on some Clip+ versions stretched a 3 minute song to 3 minutes and several seconds, that lowers the pitch since the song is playing slower than usual.

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I've actually had that happen to me as well lol on my Sansa Fuze. The last track on my Cold CD Year of the Spider "Killer the Music Industry" would say the song is 17 minutes long or so but in reality it was only 3 minutes... Not an issue I would commonly find but for that song it was...
 
But since this was such a rarity for me I just overlooked it and didn't find the Sansa Fuze useless although it rarely gets any headtime anymore

ok is the player can't keep real time processing due to a buggy firmware