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Considering people in the earlier batches waited over a year, that wait time isn't bad assuming it's accurate.

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accurate? From what I've been reading six months sounds like a pipe dream...I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath...when you want to reach for the pinnacle of mount Everest, you better plan the excursion one year in advance...let's face: with the BHSE and SR009 it's mount Everest we're talking about!

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accurate? From what I've been reading six months sounds like a pipe dream...I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath...when you want to reach for the pinnacle of mount Everest, you better plan the excursion one year in advance...let's face: with the BHSE and SR009 it's mount Everest we're talking about!

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Allow me to suspect that the BHSE is a bit warmer than the Everest.

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accurate? From what I've been reading six months sounds like a pipe dream...I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath...when you want to reach for the pinnacle of mount Everest, you better plan the excursion one year in advance...let's face: with the BHSE and SR009 it's mount Everest we're talking about!

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Yeah, assuming it's accurate. I never said it was accurate. When I put down my deposit back in November, I was under no impression that I'd be getting it any sooner than a year later. However Justin says he expects them to be done much sooner, so we'll see. A lot of the waiting comes from having to order parts from suppliers and waiting for them to show up, but Justin currently has most of the parts already from my understanding, so it's more a matter of him assembling everything. He seems to have streamlined the process over the years, so it could very well end up taking far less time now. I'm still expecting a delivery later this year, but if it's sooner it'll be a pleasant surprise.
 
That being said, the whole "you have to wait a year to get to the top" thing is silly in my opinion. Why? Because the BHSE takes a year? The BHSE isn't the only show in town anymore. It's still a fantastic amp, one I'm very excited to get, but the Electra will be arriving in March or April.
 
 

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Allow me to suspect that the BHSE is a bit warmer than the Everest.

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Haven't you heard? Everest is a wire with gain and so is the BHSE.

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Allow me to suspect that the BHSE is a bit warmer than the Everest.

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yeah...take one with you to the summit and it will melt the ice cap! Those at the base camp...ALERT! There's an avalanche ( more lime a blue Hawaiian tsunami) coming your way!

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Yeah, assuming it's accurate. I never said it was accurate. When I put down my deposit back in November, I was under no impression that I'd be getting it any sooner than a year later. However Justin says he expects them to be done much sooner, so we'll see. A lot of the waiting comes from having to order parts from suppliers and waiting for them to show up, but Justin currently has most of the parts already from my understanding, so it's more a matter of him assembling everything. He seems to have streamlined the process over the years, so it could very well end up taking far less time now. I'm still expecting a delivery later this year, but if it's sooner it'll be a pleasant surprise.

That being said, the whole "you have to wait a year to get to the top" thing is silly in my opinion. Why? Because the BHSE takes a year? The BHSE isn't the only show in town anymore. It's still a fantastic amp, one I'm very excited to get, but the Electra will be arriving in March or April.




 


Haven't you heard? Everest is a wire with gain and so is the BHSE.

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it also takes about a year or more to save up enough moolah for the expedition. It's also about supply and demand...if people all around weren't praising the combo to the skies the wait wouldn't be more than a week. If you don't want Everest there's always K2 and mount renier.

Mass production is for the age of instant gratification...with Justin you get a unique experience...if I have to wait some, so be it...I still have my other phones and amps to listen to in the interim. Its not like I'm going to go crazy because the stork has decided to bring my baby in nine months!

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it also takes about a year or more to save up enough moolah for the expedition. It's also about supply and demand...if people all around weren't praising the combo to the skies the wait wouldn't be more than a week. If you don't want Everest there's always K2 and mount renier.

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A year-long wait after you put down a deposit is still considered pretty extraordinary even by hand crafted amp standards. It was likely the result of having to source certain parts and delays in that regard. Once Justin has those parts on hand, the actual assembly isn't going to take a year.
 
Also supply and demand can affect the wait between runs, but it's unlikely to affect the wait *within* each run. That's how it works: a manufacturer allocates a set amount of units per run, and once those sell out it moves over to pre-orders for the next run. If the BHSE weren't popular, it's far more likely there simply wouldn't be any runs for it. Now that Justin has the parts on hand, the third run shouldn't take as long as the second. And the fourth run should be even less of a wait still.
 
Whether that amounts to four to six months or not, we'll see.
 
Another thing to consider is that in the past the long wait times coupled with the small number of units out there and legendary DIY difficulty made it rarer than hens teeth. You're starting to see more and more popping up on the used market however given the growing number of owners out there. This is only going to increase as we get into the fourth run. A few head-fi buddies of mine got their BHSEs second-hand without any "year long expedition planning" or whatever.

It took 15 months from ordering to receiving my BHSE and yes there were times when the waiting was frustrating, but it's a beautiful piece of audio equipment. For Sound Quality, Looks and Build Quality, I put it on par with my source.

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A year-long wait after you put down a deposit is still considered pretty extraordinary even by hand crafted amp standards. It was likely the result of having to source certain parts and delays in that regard. Once Justin has those parts on hand, the actual assembly isn't going to take a year.
 
Also supply and demand can affect the wait between runs, but it's unlikely to affect the wait *within* each run. That's how it works: a manufacturer allocates a set amount of units per run, and once those sell out it moves over to pre-orders for the next run. If the BHSE weren't popular, it's far more likely there simply wouldn't be any runs for it. Now that Justin has the parts on hand, the third run shouldn't take as long as the second. And the fourth run should be even less of a wait still.
 
Whether that amounts to four to six months or not, we'll see.
 
Another thing to consider is that in the past the long wait times coupled with the small number of units out there and legendary DIY difficulty made it rarer than hens teeth. You're starting to see more and more popping up on the used market however given the growing number of owners out there. This is only going to increase as we get into the fourth run. A few head-fi buddies of mine got their BHSEs second-hand without any "year long expedition planning" or whatever.

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it takes me over 12 months to source all of the components, unfortunately.  had I ordered 3-4x as many parts the last time around, i'd never be at risk to run out of stock.  but i do not have half a million dollars to buy parts for it (a big issue because the BHSE is around 2x parts cost not a more standard 3-5x), nor would I ever think the demand would have been there.

I ordered last April.  I knew going in that the wait could be a year or more.  I have ordered several products from Justin over the years and have never been disappointed in the sound quality, craftsmanship and attention to detail put into his products. Plus, the wait does make it easier to save up the bread for this amp!

Yeah, Justin's craftsmanship is outstanding. Also the BHSE is the only commercial stat amp I know of where you can get it in different colors. ; )
 
The BHSE is actually pretty tempting just from the waiting period standpoint. You figure "I'll have that much in a year" when you put down the deposit. I've heard a few folks end up canceling their orders at the last minute because they don't have that much in a year.

Pffft, waiting a year is nothing,  I waited 2+ years for mine and paid for it only a few months after I ordered it.    This was before they were in production though so it hardly counts. 

The BHSE I have is from a second order because the first which I ordered early 2010 had to be cancelled because something cropped up that I had to pay, so I didn't have the money to make the remaining payments, but I ordered the one I have now in March 2011. 

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the only difference it makes is that people who would have been in batch #4 won't be waiting as long

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Thank you Justin, and don't lose heart! And what about batch 3 people who subscribed in the first days of Oct 2012 (me, for instance)? Will they have to wait until summer solstice?
 
Best regards
 
PS: did you learn about my final BHSE options (private mail from 23/02)? I choose the std Alps RK50 pot.

OK, but I'm rich (smile) and old. Therefore, money isn't a problem while time is (I'd like to have my BHSE before I'm deaf or dead)