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I didn't realize your opinion was the gold standard I must grade music by? Wow, how thoughtless of me!
To you they are boring, to others they are some of the freshest and most exhilarating albums of all time. I don't believe I used the word genius anywhere, and Radiohead is certainly not ordinary. They don't make music that anyone else does, it might not be your cup of tea, but ordinary they certainly are not.
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Um, that's kinda why I wrote it floors
me...well aware that others might not feel the same. I stand by ordinariness, though. That's gold.
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I'd argue that the 60's and 70's were very much derivative of the 40's through the 50's, not that that is a bad thing but nothing really original was being created that the rock n' rollers and blues folks hadn't already tested out, not to mention the blue grass and country folks. Basically, and volumes have been written on the subject, much of the music that is regarded as classic rock, the best of the best was culled from the grand efforts of blacks and southern whites doing their thing 20-30 years earlier without much credit to them.
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The history lesson is touching, but I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks the music of the '60s and '70s is derivative of the '40s and '50s hasn't done much listening to the '40s and '50s. Let's forget jazz altogether, cuz those distinctions are much too easy. If we're talking about rock, though, we know that Eric Clapton lifted tons of licks from Robert Johnson (who was dead before 1940, but no matter), but are you really saying that Cream and Derek and the Dominos sound like
King of the Delta Blues Singers? Do, say, Ray Charles and Leadbelly render Van Morrison superfluous? What is the music of James Brown or Sly and the Family Stone derivative of? It's certainly not like the pastiche '70s hard/classic rock flavors I hear in the White Stripes—and I say that as someone who is crazy about what I consider Jack White's punk-blues record
White Blood Cells. And to Clapton's credit, he has always been upfront about where he got his sh-t from, even backed it up with checks to Johnson's executors. The way I see it, influence is one thing, derivative is another.
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Yet I stand by my statement that this decade is the best because anyone can enjoy the music of the past and get the great stuff being released daily: Fleet Foxes, Horse Feathers, Bon Iver, White Stripes, Radiohead, TV on the Radio etc among many others.
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Since we're scattering opinions, here's a few: Fleet Foxes, Horse Feathers, Bon Iver? In my opinion—which you've assured me I'm entitled to—they flat-out suck…no redeeming values whatsoever. Radiohead's a snooze except for
Kid A…I already mentioned the White Stripes…TV On the Radio turned into a great band on
Return to Cookie Mountain. Enjoy the rest of your decade.