The Beyerdynamic DT880 Discussion thread
Feb 11, 2014 at 10:38 PM Post #6,466 of 12,546
There is another thread on these forms where a former Chinese cellist  julienchina praises the 600 own version Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones for acoustical classical music. This thread can be found here.
 
Beyerdynamic DT880 more than hold their own against the Grado PS1000
 
My question in regard to that thread is can  Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones be made very closely as good for other genre's of music by either equalization or tube rolling?
 
I am a very newbie, newbie, and got the idea of purchasing audiophile quality listening equipment for my computer, which I exclusively listen to all my music with, by finding these forms and equalizing a headset to get the best electronic music listening experience I've ever had.
 
My tube amplifier which will not arrive from China until an estimated March 20 is Little Dot MK IV with SE better tube option. 
 
So if you are picking one headphone, in the price range no higher than the Beyerdynamic DT880 600 own version, and you very much wanted to be as good as it could be for all genres, how would you pick one in regards to my questions above?
 
Feb 11, 2014 at 11:25 PM Post #6,468 of 12,546
  There is another thread on these forms where a former Chinese cellist  julienchina praises the 600 own version Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones for acoustical classical music. This thread can be found here.
 
Beyerdynamic DT880 more than hold their own against the Grado PS1000
 
My question in regard to that thread is can  Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones be made very closely as good for other genre's of music by either equalization or tube rolling?
 
I am a very newbie, newbie, and got the idea of purchasing audiophile quality listening equipment for my computer, which I exclusively listen to all my music with, by finding these forms and equalizing a headset to get the best electronic music listening experience I've ever had.
 
My tube amplifier which will not arrive from China until an estimated March 20 is Little Dot MK IV with SE better tube option. 
 
So if you are picking one headphone, in the price range no higher than the Beyerdynamic DT880 600 own version, and you very much wanted to be as good as it could be for all genres, how would you pick one in regards to my questions above?

 
  I prefer the DT880 for classical. More air arround the instruments.
 

I appreciate that perspective. And I am not saying I won't prove to very much agree with you. But I still would like to have my above question answered especially in regard to equalization and tube rolling. 

Can Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm version be made even better and suitable for all genres with equalization and tube rolling?
 
Feb 11, 2014 at 11:28 PM Post #6,469 of 12,546
  Exact combo I'll have soon. I've had the Modi for a few weeks already hooked up to a vintage Pioneer SX-880 receiver, and just got my notification today that my Asgard 2 shipped. If I'm lucky, it'll arrive before the weekend. Looking forward to hearing my DT880 600's on the new setup.

Nice grats man and be sure to post your impressions here :)
 
Feb 11, 2014 at 11:32 PM Post #6,470 of 12,546
  There is another thread on these forms where a former Chinese cellist  julienchina praises the 600 own version Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones for acoustical classical music. This thread can be found here.
 
Beyerdynamic DT880 more than hold their own against the Grado PS1000
 
My question in regard to that thread is can  Beyerdynamic DT880 headphones be made very closely as good for other genre's of music by either equalization or tube rolling?
 
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I find with proper EQing the DT880s can sound very good with both rock and classical. I specifically EQed for the high frequency spikes of the phones. I then used a type of compander function on rock music to increase the dynamic range of the recorded material. I find that there is allot of over-compressed music out there with rock music. I also use a bit of bass emphasis.
 
Bob Graham
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 12:34 AM Post #6,471 of 12,546
   
I find with proper EQing the DT880s can sound very good with both rock and classical. I specifically EQed for the high frequency spikes of the phones. I then used a type of compander function on rock music to increase the dynamic range of the recorded material. I find that there is allot of over-compressed music out there with rock music. I also use a bit of bass emphasis.
 
Bob Graham

Bob Graham  - I do not know what type the equalizer you are using, but I would very much appreciate if you would give me a starting point by posting equalization curves here? Or a picture of your hardware equalization settings if you do it that way?
 
Compander function you are using is of interest of to me to. Where can I find out more about it?
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 12:47 AM Post #6,472 of 12,546
Well, let me see. I will figure out how to post a picture of my equalizer settings. I am using a mastering grade audio plugin called GlissEQ. It is a dynamic parametric EQ and has features that can also have it function as a type of compander. I can go in more detail, but start by looking it up. It is made by Voxengo and is graphically based. It has much more capability than I need, but I love to mess with it, besides it having practical value. It is a little on the wild side. :wink: If you want, I can give you a summary of capabilities in how it can be used.
 
Please keep in mind that the EQ curves I will publish will be a reference curve for the net effect of both the EQ and compander functionality. Both are specified in the same curve. 
 
Now on to do a bit of research...
 
Bob Graham
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 12:54 AM Post #6,473 of 12,546
  Well, let me see. I will figure out how to post a picture of my equalizer settings. I am using a mastering grade audio plugin called GlissEQ. It is a dynamic parametric EQ and has features that can also have it function as a type of compander. I can go in more detail, but start by looking it up. It is made by Voxengo and is graphically based. It has much more capability than I need, but I love to mess with it, besides it having practical value. It is a little on the wild side. :wink: If you want, I can give you a summary of capabilities in how it can be used.
 
Please keep in mind that the EQ curves I will publish will be a reference curve for the net effect of both the EQ and compander functionality. Both are specified in the same curve. 
 
Now on to do a bit of research...
 
Bob Graham

Thanks - very much appreciate the trouble you are going through for me. Hopefully your trouble will not be at all wasted because it will really prove a great starting point for me.
Thanks again
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 1:10 AM Post #6,474 of 12,546
  Thanks - very much appreciate the trouble you are going through for me. Hopefully your trouble will not be at all wasted because it will really prove a great starting point for me.
Thanks again

 
No problem at all. I am willing to answer your questions. I am still compelled to fuss with the curve and associated settings, due to my OCD behavior. :)
 
 

 
(This is easier than I thought)
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 6:51 AM Post #6,475 of 12,546
q.q 
 
I miss this thread you guys have so much good conversation >.>
 
sadly the HE 4 is proving to be... exactly what I was told it was a "super" Dt 880, meaning everything tubes and eq does the the DT 880, the HE 4 is straight out of my NFB 10ES2 Balanced Out [well everything but a 5db Sub Bass Hump for EDM :3] 
 
Some of the T90 members feel the HE 4 is a Side grade to the T90 so hurray there
 
Non the less... here is some music you guys should enjoy :3
 

 
Feb 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM Post #6,476 of 12,546
I do love this thread too. Only thing I have to say is that the science of all of it is cool, but I equalize to what sounds good to my ears. For me, that's a slight bump in treble. Even with the DT880s. It may be due to my hearing damage though.

Man what I wouldn't do to have my perfect hearing back. :p

Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM Post #6,477 of 12,546
I do love this thread too. Only thing I have to say is that the science of all of it is cool, but I equalize to what sounds good to my ears. For me, that's a slight bump in treble. Even with the DT880s. It may be due to my hearing damage though.

Man what I wouldn't do to have my perfect hearing back. :p

Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
o.o If you EQ the treble UP with the 880s... you should look into getting a pair of T90s. :D
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM Post #6,478 of 12,546
Definitely going to have to look into those. Just a little out of my range at the moment. I use my 5.5G iMod with a Fiio E17 amp and silver LOD. I set the iMod to no equalizer and the E17 to 0 bass and 4 treble. It has an option of 0 - 10 for base and treble. But you can only go up by increments of 2. 2, 4, 6. So really it's a 1-5 scale. So I use a slight bump, nothing crazy. But to me it adds to the clarity.

Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 5:01 PM Post #6,479 of 12,546
   
I appreciate that perspective. And I am not saying I won't prove to very much agree with you. But I still would like to have my above question answered especially in regard to equalization and tube rolling.

Can Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm version be made even better and suitable for all genres with equalization and tube rolling?

Can Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm version be made even better and suitable for all genres with equalization and tube rolling?Equalization don't know but with Tube Rolling IMO yes specially with Little Dot Amp with OCTAL Tubes.
 
Feb 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM Post #6,480 of 12,546
Éee gads! I am going deaf! I have been charting the frequency response of my setup. This includes the DAC/amp, the headphones, and my ears. I find the frequency range to be much less than I expected, 35 Hz to 12,000 Hz! There Is a substantial rolloff at 12,000 Hz. This must be due to my ears. My ears appear to be that of a man who is ten years older than me! Also, at some frequencies my left ear cannot hear anywhere near as well as my right ear. Fortunately with my EQ software, I can specify a different EQ curve for each ear, the L and R channels. The resulting EQ curves should turn out to be interesting.

Bob Graham
 

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