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True but hey guys I'm about to get my self a Custom Cocobolo Wooden Back D2k :3 with a Balaned D7k Cable :D. I'm pretty sure once I mod and dapmen the D2k Drivers it should be a pretty epic closed cans :3 

Thing is...you know how to mod :D 

I just wish someone could sit down and teach me all their mad headphone modding skillz

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Yeah, that's right I messaged you about it in July! You gave me some notes about the signal tubes. Yeah the 336c is certainly appealing because of it's looks and price, I like that it uses larger tubes, they're much more impressive looking :D Still, I wonder how that amp compares to the LD III and IV, as well as the Schiit Valhalla (which I'm not too keen on as I've heard it's bright sounding and has more limited tube rolling capabilities that the others, and it's the most expensive). 

 

Right, and I forgot to send you anything about the output tubes.

To be honest, I've never really spent any time comparing output tubes.

Lately I've been using a Svetlana 6H13C output tube, a nice clean sounding tube.

Looks like a Coke bottle.

Another one I like is the Tungsol JAN 6080WA, a somewhat lush, "tubey" sounding tube! It's a short fat stubby little thing.


On the cheap, RCA 6as7 does wonders as well. lush with meaty bass. biggrin.gif
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That's OK, the main thing I'd want to avoid is humming so your notes on the signal tubes are greatly appreciated. 

May I ask where you get your tubes? I struggle to find a lot of the exact versions / brands you mentioned.
I bought some from Dale at vacuumtubes.net. I got a reasonably priced Tung-Sol 5998/Chatham 2339 and a bargain Tung-Sol 7236 for around $30. Great guy to deal with.
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OK, great. Thanks for the recommendations. Later down the road when I can afford the 336c I'll check these out.

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The D7000 has a very nice soundstage, and plenty of detail. Once you calm the bass down a little, you realise just how much detail is there. This is the DT880 thread so I'll shut-up about the D7000.

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The D7000 has a very nice soundstage, and plenty of detail. Once you calm the bass down a little, you realise just how much detail is there. This is the DT880 thread so I'll shut-up about the D7000.

Yes Yes i know it's there. I think d7000s are the best headphones ever if you enjoy japanese anime ost :) It's just so amazing.

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Yes Yes i know it's there. I think d7000s are the best headphones ever if you enjoy japanese anime ost :) It's just so amazing.

Ironically I got my DT 880 because I was listening to a lot of VIdeo Game and jRPG osts, the the DT 880 are still my favorite honestly. BUt it's a matter of closed versus open. and a $250 vs an old $1000 FlagShip lol

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Ironically I got my DT 880 because I was listening to a lot of VIdeo Game and jRPG osts, the the DT 880 are still my favorite honestly. BUt it's a matter of closed versus open. and a $250 vs an old $1000 FlagShip lol

Well my friend had it for a while in the dorms, so I got a lot of ear time. Classical and d7000? don't mix that well. But the anime stuff is just pure amazingness cause the japanese producers love to add these small touches to their music. Both are amazing headphones it just depends on you :D

A very wise guy once told me: as long as your happy and your ears are happy then GOOD JOB you've found your niche :D

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Im tempted to open up my DT 880 and add some dynamat or whatever to help dampen it and make it closed. I think I read a guide about it somewhere in this thread 

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Im tempted to open up my DT 880 and add some dynamat or whatever to help dampen it and make it closed. I think I read a guide about it somewhere in this thread 

The DT770 is supposed to be a closed DT880.
I'm sure Beyer has a few tricks in the construction of the DT770 to give it that special DT770 sound! tongue.gif
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The DT770 is supposed to be a closed DT880.
I'm sure Beyer has a few tricks in the construction of the DT770 to give it that special DT770 sound! tongue.gif

Yea but the DT 770 is not a Closed 880 sadly xD it still has it's own sound. 

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I posted earlier in the thread as a (then) new 880/600 owner. Since then, I've tried a variety of amplifiers - the trials and tribulations of which can be found in the Oppo105 HP thread - and wanted to share a recommendation. I'm on very good terms with a local, independent record store that also sells quite a bit of vintage gear. I was able to borrow a number of older receivers and integrated amps to try, and actually purchased two of the bunch for different applications [read, one is for the garage]. The piece that truly stands out with the 880/600, as an almost perfect blend of power, detail, definition, and that almost indefinable sense of drive (PRaT?) that makes for a fun listening session, and a long one at that. It's a ca. 1971 Kenwood KR-3130 receiver. Rated at 19wpc, more like ~15wpc, and an (HP) output impedance close to 120 Ohm, mated with 880/600 the sound is sublime. 

 

 

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I loved my 770s, but they did have less refined detail than the 880s. Still a fantastic headphone for the money.

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WOW, I am pissed off right now!

 

So I got my used DT880 600s just now in the mail from TNT, from Amazon Warehouse Deals, where apparently "We thoroughly test the functional and physical condition of each item and give the product a specific grade before selling it." 

 

Well the physical condition is excellent, no damage at all, everything is included, but... No sound out of the left driver. The condition was listed as "Very good", which I agree with, but every item they sell is supposed to be totally functional. This is clearly a headphone that was returned for being faulty, and has somehow been mistakenly resold. Geez, what a terrible first experience with a Beyer product :mad:

 

So, I looked at the return / refund section just now, and for this item I can't get a replacement, only returns are available. That might not seem so bad, but the worst part of it all is that I'm an Australian, and had to use a mail forwarding service to get it here (which was expensive). I imagine they would probably not pay for return shipping since I'm international and they don't actually ship it here. If I have to pay shipping for returns just to get a refund, I'm going to end up over $100 out of pocket on this terrible experience. What a disaster.

 

So I'm contacting the sellers and I'm going to try and rattle my cage loud enough that they cut me a break and either pay for return shipping and/or give me a replacement, however, I'm wondering about my other options. I know that one side going out is a well documented problem on the Beyer. Does anybody know if it's an actual driver problem, or is it a soldering one? If it's the latter, maybe my best option would be to have it re-soldered (or even go all out for a re-cable entirely? A shorter cable would be nice). If my luck with Amazon falls through and it's going to end up being a big loss for me to return it, finding somebody to fix it could be the best option.

 

*Sigh*

 

Outside of that, the headphones themselves certainly feel quite solid, and quite comfortable on the head. The earcup/grill design looks even better in person, it's very attractive. I really am not going to give any impressions of the sound, because I can't really tell what they sound like accurately at all from one of the sides being dead. I can tell a few things, though. The headphones are quite fast, and the bass reach and cleanliness sounds really good to me. I can't determine soundstage at all with one ear, unfortunately. I think the bass would be right where I'd like it. They sound thin and shrill, though, however the same thing happens with my CAL! with only one ear, too, but to a bit of a lesser extent. Brightness is one thing I've worried about with this headphones, along with bass. I'm pretty reassured about the bass, it sounds pretty nice from what I can tell, but the one ear effect does the treble no favours, but I'm sure it'll sound much more balanced and pleasurable with two. 

 

So, a very disappointing experience that's really ruined my day. Any insight about the re-cabling would be welcome from any of you who know about it! For now, I'm off to contact Amazon and maybe send a line over to BTG Audio to enquire about recabling. Might be nice to get a removable cable or something :)

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And this is why I don't buy used... That is really too bad, can't really blame Beyer for the bad experience. Just the bad seller. Buy local and buy new to save a world of grief, cost you more but aggravation is not worth it. Good Luck!
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I do agree that it is mostly Amazons fault for sending something out that was faulty when they had supposedly checked it. Though I can't help but be at least somewhat annoyed at Beyer for making a headphone with such a history for this very problem.

 

Good luck indeed, I'll need it! I really hope I can just get it repaired / re-cabled, that seems like the most appealing option to me right now. I want to keep these things!

 

But hey, I'm thankful I'm having this problem with a legitimate store. An unknown eBayer or something would make this way worse. I can at least know I'll get some co-operation with Amazon. 


Edited by HeretixAevum - 11/11/13 at 6:43pm
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