so I read this today...
Apr 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 3

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What I'm talking about is cans sound worse than properly built Canalphones or IEMs.

Reasons why:
1) Being on the outside of the ear, they never quite "sit" in the same place. Subtle movements of the tweeter cone relative to your ear have a dramatic effect on frequency response because your ear is biologically shaped to color sound drastically depending on where it hits the outer ear; it's how we localize sounds. the closer the speaker is to your eardrum, the purer and more reliable the sound will be.
2) there's less than an inch between where the speaker is relative to your eardrum in a can vs a canalphone or IEM, but that inch makes a world of difference in terms of amplifier output required to get the same SPL level. The sensitivity of cans is always worse, meaning there's a greater chance you're pushing your amp into a nonlinear range.
3) as above, that distance also affects part choice. Cans have to move a few inches of material in their speaker cones, and as such compromises have to be made. The smaller the speaker cone itself, the less mass there is and the easier it is to make it rigid, thus making it cheaper and easier for canalphone manufacturers (who only have to move about a cm diameter cone) to make wide-bandwidth, flatter-sounding drivers.
4) isolation is always better with canalphones because of how they work; better isolation means less external noise means better impression of the music. Good for the listening experience in the short run, and in the long run saves your ears quite a bit of damage from compensating for environmental noise.

Anyone who thinks a headphone amp affects sound quality is not worth listening to. Amplifiers AMPLIFY. As long as the SNR is sufficiently low, and you don't push them outside their operational range, and the THD is less than .01% or so at 1kHz, they are transparent.


This guy seems extremely passionate about how IEMs are better than full-size headphones and that headphone amplifiers are useless. Seems to go against everything I've ever read.... so are these valid points or is he full of it?
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Apr 13, 2009 at 7:07 PM Post #2 of 3
Without even reading any of that, here's my opinion. I'm not really into sound science or anything. Instead of worrying about that I can tell you what my teachers instilled in us in computer class regularly. - The right tool for the right job. It's silly to say omg Windows only when Linux can work better in a certain situation, and vice versa.

There are some incredible sounding headphones, and there are some incredible sounding IEMS. It really depends on your circumstances and what you want. Headphones are better for some, and iems are better for some. They each have pro's and cons.

I would say for portable use IEMS are better, but some people don't like sticking stuff in their ears or have other reasons for not doing so. They're much more portable than headphones, and almost always much easier to drive from a portable player. All IEMS have at least some noise isolation as well, but some have more than others.

I don't think you can compare a high end amped headphone to a high end amped IEM though. If you're sitting at home by yourself or whatever and you want to nitpick everything or totally rock out - headphones will be better. IEMS (imo) are primarily for on the go or just when you don't have the luxury or the best possible sound. Even headphones aren't as good as a proper speaker system, but it's not practical to use speakers all the time. You can't really move them or bring them with you, or you might disturb someone if you play the stuff too loud.

So, what's my point? Don't limit yourself to one and think omg this one is better than the other. Figure out what's best for YOU and your circumstances. Don't listen to some random guy on the internet and have him tell you what's best for you or not.
 
Apr 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM Post #3 of 3
I think having both (or more
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) is prefered. The reason being that I like to change up how I listen to my music. IEM's are nice but they start to bother my ear canals, headphones are nice but are not always convenient and also are fatiguing in their own way. I am now starting to think I want an open air headphone to go along with my closed ear phones so I can get something with a different sound signature. (Actually I am thinking I may save my pennies... ALOT of pennies and get either a really nice IEM or open headphones that has a nice clear up front midrange so I hear the vocals more clearly.

One thing is for sure, I can't see myself sitting at my big house stereo with a long earphone extension cord and my IEM's plugged in
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it just doesn't seem right
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