HD380 vs. HD280

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That's the HD 280-Pro.

The HD 280-13 is 600 Ohms - you may find this version better for you.

Maybe this thread can give a bit more information: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/sen...inside-378999/

I just got a pair of HD 380 pros in the mail. I found a store selling them for $158 canadian. I haven't heard the 280s so I can't compare them. But compared to my grado SR-60s they have more forward trebel, more impact in the lower notes, and grungy guitar. They seem very detailed. Dunno, i'm still getting used to them and from what i've heard they might take a while to burn in.

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Thanks, and welcome to Head-Fi!

How is their comfort?

They clamp on fairly tight, it's not noticeable at first but over time (2 hours so far) i feel a bit of pressure. The pads are massive though so it's spread out, and they're pretty hard to shake off my head.

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The M-50 are a good alternative to the 280, as well the GMP 8.35 D Monitor - GermanMAESTRO Shop

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Does the GMP 8.35 isolate better than the GMP 250?
Because that's important for OP.

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where is such a thing available for purchase?

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Yes, the isolation is way much better then the QP-250, do the construction of the pad.

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Every Sennheiser dealer should be able to sell you this - it's a standard headphone in the price list - and the same price as the low impedance version.

Though I would suggest you try the dealers that are sponsors of this forum first.

Well, I took the plunge and bought the HD380 Pros ($238 including tax and extended warranty.)

So far, I am very impressed. Far from being "one step up" from the HD280s, they are in an entirely different league. Indeed, if I had bought HD650s and this is what they sounded like, I would have felt like I got my money's worth!
I really never expected any closed phones under $500 to outperform my DT150s, but these do. Unlike the 150s, these are also supremely comfortable.

The first thing that I noticed was soundstage. As in freakin' immense soundstage! There is absolutely nothing to suggest that these are closed cans, because they sound like transparent screens that the music passes through. I had K701s for a while, and they had nothing on these in terms of either openness or soundstage.

Next was detail. Tons of detail. I picked up on subleties I have not noticed in very familiar recordings, always a sign of great cans. Again, the K701s have nothing on these.

Overall frequency response seems a bit tipped up, with the treble being quite prominent. Because the treble is so detailed and smooth, however, this does not make them sound harsh or fatiguing (so far.)

At first, the bass seemed weaker than DT150. After a bit, however, I realized that it was just not calling attention to itself. When the recording contains deep, powerful bass, the 380s rise to the challenge.

The only negative I can find is that they do have the same issue as the 280s with revealing the noise floor of my amp. Unlike the 280s, however, these are good enough to justify buying a dedicated amp at some point.

In summary, these are both everything I had hoped for and much more than I expected for the price: All the SQ that the very highest-end open Sennheisers are known for in closed phones with good isolation and superb comfort!

At this point, my plan is to let my friend at work choose which pair of Beyers he wants to keep (DT770 or DT150), and sell the others. That is a pretty amazing statement coming from me, because I was a huge fan of the Beyers until I heard the HD380s!

Intoart, congrats! Quite interesting.
How are these with sibilance?
How is the PRaT?
Thanks.

intoart, quite impressive, makes me want to try the hd 380...
But, i remember you described DT 770\80 bass as very lifelike so i will take this your impressions with grain of salt...

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I can judge technicalities quite well, but PRaT is too subjective to say anything meaningful about. Seems good to me so far is all I can say.

I tend to get rid of CDs with sibilance, so I am not sure if I have any to test that with. I will check to see if I kept my Katy Perry disc, if so then that would be a good test.

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Then I guess you will have to find someplace where you can try without buying. If you miss out on these gems because you don't trust my opinion, that is your loss.