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Silver Interconnects

post #1 of 35
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Can anyone reccomend a cheap but solid silver analog RCA interconnect of 3 foot length. I have not tested any siilver cables.
post #2 of 35
Cheap and solid silver don't exactly go hand in hand. You might try pming mmwwhats and see what he can do. I had an XLR cable made by him for $100. Perhaps try someone in the DIY forum, there are plenty of people who make silver ICs but I don't know who all sells them.
post #3 of 35
I've heard great things about the Silver Resolution from Signal Cable. I also personally owned the Zu Gede and it sounded very nice.
post #4 of 35
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Originally Posted by compuryan View Post
I've heard great things about the Silver Resolution from Signal Cable. I also personally owned the Zu Gede and it sounded very nice.
+1 for SignalCable. They make an excellent cable for fairly cheap
post #5 of 35
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Originally Posted by nick_charles View Post
Can anyone reccomend a cheap but solid silver analog RCA interconnect of 3 foot length. I have not tested any siilver cables.
I dunno if 200 is expensive but there is a MAC silver cable with Eichmann Silver Bullet plugs in the for sale forums.
post #6 of 35
Hey Nick, dont buy silver if you want to continue down the "They all sound the same" path.
post #7 of 35
+1 on Silver Resolution from Signal Cable.
post #8 of 35
Word of caution - cheap silver cables (usually) exhibit all the bad traits there are about silver....bright, lean, sharp, fatiguing. If you get it right though the results can be fantastic (in the right system, that is). My tried and trusted go-to silver cable would be the Kimber KCAG.
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by xenithon View Post
Word of caution - cheap silver cables (usually) exhibit all the bad traits there are about silver....bright, lean, sharp, fatiguing. If you get it right though the results can be fantastic (in the right system, that is). My tried and trusted go-to silver cable would be the Kimber KCAG.
Havent you been told? Cables all sound alike.
post #10 of 35
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Originally Posted by xenithon View Post
Word of caution - cheap silver cables (usually) exhibit all the bad traits there are about silver....bright, lean, sharp, fatiguing. If you get it right though the results can be fantastic (in the right system, that is). My tried and trusted go-to silver cable would be the Kimber KCAG.
Or the Kimber Silver streak; half the price, only the signal cable is silver. I got it and love it.
BTW, this cable is ideal to find out about the differences between copper and silver; the Kimber PBJ has exactly the same built, except that the signal wire is also copper; compared to the SS the PBJ sound largely alike, that typical Kimbersound, wide open, detailed, and tonally somehow 'right'.
The differences are in the frequency-extremes; the PBJ has a slightly rolled off, a little coarse treble, the bass is slightly wooly. The SS has a clear extende treble and welldefined bass, extending deeper.
All this on my speakerbased system. I'm not sure how it works out with headphone-based systems; I guess the audible differences will be smaller, since the size and form of the soundstage is much more obvious on speakerbased systems.
post #11 of 35
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
Hey Nick, dont buy silver if you want to continue down the "They all sound the same" path.
Yesterday I thought I had found an audible difference on the 500hz square wave tests. I reliably picked out (in Foobar 14/17) the Sidewinder from a $5 tartan, I was surprised and intrigued.

When I looked at the average levels they were -37.02 and - 37.20. viz I was reliably picking out a 0.18db difference.

This was interesting, so I went to the data files and looked at the differences in the frequncy bands, here I found that there were differences of up to 5db at some frequencies, hmm that looked suspicious, so I loaded up the wave files in Audacity and found I had not aligned and triimmed them correctly, one file was .5 of a second longer, believe me that makes a big difference. I trimmed the files to the same alignment and it was back to a null result. I have to admit I was a bit disappointed.

Now if silver really is different I am confident my setup is sensitive to pick up a consistent difference now.

Peace and Love !
post #12 of 35
I currently own two brands of interconnects which are silver plated. One is the Zu Gede which can be bought of eBay in 3 foot lengths for about $110. The second is a Silver Sonic BL-1 which I purchased from Moon Audio also in 3 foot length for under $100. Very happy w/ both.
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by mrarroyo View Post
I currently own two brands of interconnects which are silver plated. One is the Zu Gede which can be bought of eBay in 3 foot lengths for about $110. The second is a Silver Sonic BL-1 which I purchased from Moon Audio also in 3 foot length for under $100. Very happy w/ both.
Thanks , the question is whether a Silver plate will act the exact same way as solid silver or will it be somewhere between copper and silver. Since silver is more conductive a solid silver cable should be measurably different from a copper one, but I do not know if the same is true of silver plate ?

If I test a silver plate cable and it is not discernably different then I would need to test a solid silver one anyway

how about VALAB

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pure-Silver-Anal...1%7C240%3A1318

or White Zombie http://www.whitezombieaudio.com/lacacanyacables.html
post #14 of 35
From what I have read here:
Copper sounds more warm while silver is brighter. SPC will sound like copper with a bit of brightness of silver thrown in. That is at least what most people say.
Why don't you order something from navships @ eBay? It is not expensive and would be fun to experiment with.
post #15 of 35
From what I have read, the quality of the plating process has a lot to do with the quality of spc cable. The original use of siver plating was to prevent the copper conductor from oxidizing and deteriorating in military applications. The so-called "brightness" that some attribute to spc is said to be caused by poor plating. The only article and attendant reference articles I've read that out and out denigrate spc is from Jenving, the designer of Supra cables at the link below.

Ply Loudspeaker Cables

FWIW Nordost uses spc in all their cables. If you're looking for a spc cable, two of the most recommended, reasonably priced that I've seen are DH Labs BL-1 and the budget Nordost Cinemaflex that is supposed to be a "sleeper". Both DH Labs and Nordost claim to use a superior bonding process and thicker coat of silver for their cables.

This is only my personal point of view and if it's placebo effect, then so be it. To use that famous quote "If it sounds good to you, then it must be good". The only pure silver cable I've ever used is from Signal Cables. I didn't find it bright at all. It is quite detailed and smooth but for my taste it was a little lean. Just to throw a wrench into the works, my favourite cable is JPS Labs Superconductor which is a copper/aluminum alloy that I use between preamp and amp.

BTW I applaud and admire you for your enterprise. It's very thorough and well done. I personally believe that I can hear the difference between cables. However, after 35 years in this hobby with the accompanying reading and research, I have yet to come across a definitiive study that shows a large measurable difference between cables. If you need any assistance to further your study, feel free to add me to your list of financial contributors.
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