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Sep 25, 2013 at 3:28 AM Post #841 of 1,750
I've actually heard WA2 with WE421s and to me not worth it. I do not care about 5998 TSs either. Still my reference Curved Brown Base 6AS7G. Warmth musicality and body. Everything in one. Those side by side with Valvo red D-getter E188CC and EZ80 from RTF is my go for setup in WA2. Second best tube for me is any other 6AS7G. 5998 TS might be good for Sennheiser HD650 but for W5000 my preference goes to what I've stated above.
 
Sep 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM Post #842 of 1,750
aethelred said:
I've actually heard WA2 with WE421s and to me not worth it. I do not care about 5998 TSs either. Still my reference Curved Brown Base 6AS7G. Warmth musicality and body. Everything in one. Those side by side with Valvo red D-getter E188CC and EZ80 from RTF is my go for setup in WA2. Second best tube for me is any other 6AS7G. 5998 TS might be good for Sennheiser HD650 but for W5000 my preference goes to what I've stated above.
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depending on your headphone the tube preference will be very different. the 5998 is a good tube just that it sounds different and isn't always best for your headphones.
 
i only like the 5998 with the Beyerdynamic T1 and HD 650/600. the 5998 will not work with the HD 800.
 
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the GEC 6AS7G is far far better with HD 800 than the other headphones. i would never use this tube with beyerdynamic t1, just don't like it.
 
the RFT EZ80 is my favorite, nothing else i heard sounds as transparent and well balanced.
 
Sep 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM Post #843 of 1,750
Thanks for the feedback regarding the WE421a.  I saw a NOS pair on ebay about a week ago for $379 a pair (they are sold now) and was just curious.
 
Sep 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM Post #844 of 1,750
I also ran my Bendix 6080 WB graphite(s) in the WA2 with my HD 800.  Very good tube, fuller sounding with more bass and impact with great instrument separation as compared to the more refined controlled sound of the TS 5998.  I wouldn't say better necessarily, but different in regards that the supporting/backup vocals and instruments are more forward and carry almost the same weight as the lead portions.  It really gives the WA2 the sound of a different amp while keeping the high standards of the WA2.  The tubes play all types of music very well and may be particularly a good fit for rock etc.
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 8:48 PM Post #845 of 1,750
dubstep girl said:
   
depending on your headphone the tube preference will be very different. the 5998 is a good tube just that it sounds different and isn't always best for your headphones.
 
i only like the 5998 with the Beyerdynamic T1 and HD 650/600. the 5998 will not work with the HD 800.
 
likewise,
 
the GEC 6AS7G is far far better with HD 800 than the other headphones. i would never use this tube with beyerdynamic t1, just don't like it.
 
the RFT EZ80 is my favorite, nothing else i heard sounds as transparent and well balanced.
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I find this interesting because in my setup the TS 5998 is sounding pretty sweet with my HD 800 and I have two HD 650s (different cables ) to compare against.  In fact, I would  highly recommend the 5998.  Now, if only I could find some GECs fairly cheap.
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM Post #846 of 1,750
ru4music said:
I find this interesting because in my setup the TS 5998 is sounding pretty sweet with my HD 800 and I have two HD 650s (different cables ) to compare against.  In fact, I would  highly recommend the 5998.  Now, if only I could find some GECs fairly cheap.
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I find that the 5998 still has a sort of veil with hd 800s, its just too thick sounding imo. The gec didnt have that, it was warm yet transparent.
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM Post #847 of 1,750
So just spent an hour with each new rectifier... Iam trying to wrap my head around what I am hearing to be honest but the improvement over the stock tube is obvious.
 
The 596 sounds dynamic, fast, accurate in my first hour but very pleasant.
 
The Sophia Princess, sounds much improved over the stock tube but a little more polite...not sure how else to put it.
 
Oh well, I will spend a lot more time with these two and have more to share later.  I know this ground has been covered but figured one more person's ears on a set of tubes may not hurt.
 
Happy Friday all and cheers!
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 9:44 PM Post #848 of 1,750
dubstep girl said:
I find that the 5998 still has a sort of veil with hd 800s, its just too thick sounding imo. The gec didnt have that, it was warm yet transparent.
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Yes, I just listened to the hd 800 vs 650 again and I definitely would chose the hd 800 for clarity and less congestion.  To my ear the 650 (in this comparison) has a more pronounce veil.  However, I could see a little warmth and euphonics being added as an improvement as you reference in the GECs.  This is great; always more improvement to chase after!
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Sep 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM Post #849 of 1,750
If you can find GeC tubes, i think the improvement over 5998 is well worth it.
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM Post #850 of 1,750
m coupe said:
So just spent an hour with each new rectifier... Iam trying to wrap my head around what I am hearing to be honest but the improvement over the stock tube is obvious.

The 596 sounds dynamic, fast, accurate in my first hour but very pleasant.

The Sophia Princess, sounds much improved over the stock tube but a little more polite...not sure how else to put it.

Oh well, I will spend a lot more time with these two and have more to share later.  I know this ground has been covered but figured one more person's ears on a set of tubes may not hurt.

Happy Friday all and cheers!
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Sounds right. The 596 with 6fd7 or 6gl7 is the best ive heard with lcd-2!

The stock tube is merely a "does the amp work" tube. Its terrible unfortunately. Congested, muddy, harsh,etc.
 
Sep 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM Post #851 of 1,750
m coupe said:
  So just spent an hour with each new rectifier... Iam trying to wrap my head around what I am hearing to be honest but the improvement over the stock tube is obvious.
 
The 596 sounds dynamic, fast, accurate in my first hour but very pleasant.
 
The Sophia Princess, sounds much improved over the stock tube but a little more polite...not sure how else to put it.
 
Oh well, I will spend a lot more time with these two and have more to share later.  I know this ground has been covered but figured one more person's ears on a set of tubes may not hurt.
 
Happy Friday all and cheers!
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Hey!  How did you fit 596 rectifiers in a WA 2?  You do know this is a WA 2 thread don't you!
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Sep 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM Post #854 of 1,750
dubstep girl said:
Lol!!!
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DG, u're still selling your WA 2 to fund a WA 22 correct?  I'll be very interested in hearing your opinions on the WA 22 (once you get it.)   I've got maybe 1000 hours on my WA 2 and 300 - 350 hours on supporting equip. (e.g. phones, DAC, cables , and etc.) and it is just starting to really really impress me.  I can understand when you said you may repurchase it, even with the WA 22!  This WA 2 is absolutely a very well designed and engineer product by Woo Audio (disclaimer: no association with Woo Audio); it's a keeper and contender with some of the best products out there.  Just wanted to share: the more I use this amp the more impressed I am with the product as a whole (and with my back ground, that is a sincere compliment!) - pardon my humility
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Sep 27, 2013 at 11:22 PM Post #855 of 1,750
m coupe said:
  Now I do
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I actually would love to hear the WA 2 fitted with the MIGHTY 596'ers!  You've got connections, broach the subject with Clayton and or etc.
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