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About to pull the trigger.SE530/Triplefi10

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I've read a large number of threads on ShureSE530/UE Triplefi10 comparisons and here's what I gathered.

Both are great, high end universal fit iem's. Ultimately it's really a matter of preference and you can't go wrong with either.

-The triplefi10 have great top end detail but are slightly more recessed in the lower frequencies.
-The 530s have plenty of presence in the low frequencies but are slightly rolled off in the top end.
-The Triplefi10 are relatively large in size and may not be a perfect fit.
-The 530s are extremely comfortable and will in most cases fit very well for everyone.
-The 530s are very efficient and will work well un-amped with most sources.
-The mids are a little more recessed on the 530s

Does this sound about right? If all (or most) of the above statements are true, I may pick up a pair of 530s tomorrow as the iem alternative to my HD650. I do appreciate bass and pristine top end as well but if I have to make the choice between one or the other the question is: where am I losing out the most? Bottom on the UEtf10 or top on the SE530 ?

Are the Triplefi10 anemic on bass or the 530s really dull on the top end? Or is the difference ever so slight that it really boils down to ones own opinion?

Between thin bottom and rolled off high frequencies...I choose rolled off highs! I'm guessing it isn't quite as radical as that right?!
post #2 of 18
The 530s are audibly rolled off but have great bass to make up for it. I believe your list is pretty accurate. The triple fis are large tho IMO, i couldnt use them so i went the 530s route and never looked back.

Dave
post #3 of 18
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Originally Posted by myinitialsaredac View Post
The 530s are audibly rolled off but have great bass to make up for it. I believe your list is pretty accurate. The triple fis are large tho IMO, i couldnt use them so i went the 530s route and never looked back.

Dave
Thanks Dave....I have relatively large ears...so I've been told! But I'm concerned about all the posts I've read mentioning the sizing issue with the triplefi10. I intend on using these often enough that comfort is an important factor in my decision. It sounds like the 530s are unanimously considered very comfortable.

The rolled of highs are a little unfortunate, but I guess you can't have it all! I think I'll choose comfort and low end/rolled off highs!

As long as the top end difference on the 530s doesn't make them sound muffled or compressed with lack of detail in the key frequency ranges, voice, stringed instruments and everything other than bass and instruments sitting below middle C !!!
post #4 of 18
Nwilliams,

I wouldn't venture to say the rolled off highs bother my pallate very much unless there are some mad cymbals action or the like. I enjoy the 530s very much, just compared to the 701s their highs arent quite up to par. However compared to the 701s the bass is much better.
IMHO the bass on the 530s is tight, articulate, and deep more than making up for the rolled highs. I don't want you to get the impression they are only bass monsters, but the bass is very very good and has a nice balance with the mids and highs.

Dave
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by myinitialsaredac View Post
Nwilliams,

I wouldn't venture to say the rolled off highs bother my pallate very much unless there are some mad cymbals action or the like. I enjoy the 530s very much, just compared to the 701s their highs arent quite up to par. However compared to the 701s the bass is much better.
IMHO the bass on the 530s is tight, articulate, and deep more than making up for the rolled highs. I don't want you to get the impression they are only bass monsters, but the bass is very very good and has a nice balance with the mids and highs.

Dave
Your description reminds me a little of the sonic signature of my Sennheiser HD650. I think I'll be happy with the Shure!
post #6 of 18
If you like Senn. house sound, than SE530 is for you; If you like K701 or Audio Technica house sound, than TF10 will be good.
post #7 of 18
got the same problem and need to decide eheh
Think ill go for the shure
post #8 of 18
It's interesting that the shure specs indicate a higher freq response than the trips yet many think the trips go higher.
I think the trips are rated to 17,000khz and the 530s to 19,000Khz ?

I'll get get my 530's next week so I guess I'll see if I hear it that way too.

I like both the Senn650 and the AKG701's so I will prolly like the 530's.

I have to use small olives or comply to fit into my ear canal which is why I had to return the trips, they just wouldn't fit w/o rubbing my ears to the point of bleeding.

No fun, that.

So if anyone uses the small tips with their IEMs you prolly wont be able to tolerate the trips.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by tomjtx View Post
It's interesting that the shure specs indicate a higher freq response than the trips yet many think the trips go higher.
I think the trips are rated to 17,000khz and the 530s to 19,000Khz ?
Here is the explanation:
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
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Third, spec are usually very misleading. Frequency response are suppose to be measured with a tolerance value, to inform the reader how accurate the freq. resp. is. Unfortunately, most headphone manufacturers would rather not list their actual tolerance value because it limits the actual range of freq. resp. that can be listed. For example, if you look at the following freq. resp.: With + 3dB tolerance, the spec should be listed at 170Hz. However, with + 9dB tolerance, the spec becomes 120Hz. With out tolerance value, you can listed bass as low as 20Hz, but it will be something like -40dB. Assuming the spec is measured at 90dB SPL, -40 dB will be 90-40 = 50dB(SPL). The 20Hz bass is so low (50dB), it is pretty much unnoticeable in 90dB of music. That is why manufacturers don't like to list the tolerance value - so people who don't know how to read the spec will be impressed by a headphone that goes as low as 10Hz without realizing it is all marketing trick.
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post #10 of 18
Thanks for confirming that, C.
I thought that might be the case since I couldn't find any graphs on the 2.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by tomjtx View Post
Thanks for confirming that, C.
I thought that might be the case since I couldn't find any graphs on the 2.
Here you go:
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
I picked up mu SE530 today. Very happy. They sound just as I thought they would. The info and feedback I got here was accurate and very helpful. Thanks to everyone for helping me make an informed purchase!

Now I just have to get used to having something stuck in my ear! Feels a little weird for now. Not uncomfortable, but awkward, I'm sure I'll get used to it.

They indeed have plenty of low end and are rolled off on the top end. This sound signature works well for me. The differences in sound are quite noticeable based on the sleeves you use. So far I have a preference for the foam tips. Noise isolation is impressive and the sound is very full considering the size. This is my first experience with iems and I'm very happy with this purchase.

Now I'm off to listen to music!! No more research!
post #13 of 18
Grats on the purchase nwilliams,
I agree with ur sleeve pick, however I find the silicon tips so much easier to put in and out on busy days I end up switching between the foams and the silicons.

Enjoy them.

Dave
post #14 of 18
good purchase, for those that are still considering one or the other, the points the OP makes are very accurate apart from the last point about mids, its the triple fi mids that are recessed, the shure mids are considered practically the best in the in ear universe.

ofcourse it down to taste but i mean from a technical point of view the mids presentation is very full and true on the shure se530
post #15 of 18
Certain Amps can pull up the mids for the Triple-fi?
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