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stock (w/Lawton angle pads).

 

i keep all my cans stock, except for earpad and cable changes.

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I'm on stock as well, may consider buying a pair of Lawton pads in the future. Now with the Fostexs selling well Mark won't be closing his business any time soon I assume.

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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post

That's the thing that scares me about the LCD-2. To me, at least, a strong rolloff in the highs would be detrimental.

Just a heads up that the LCD-2's treble is far from "rolled off". Its extended to 20,000Hz. It is pushed back however to account for the drivers bring right next to your ears. If you're a treble-head, I'd recommend the HD800s instead. But if you want a clean and natural sound without stridency in the treble, no other dynamic/ortho headphone is better IMO. 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Just a heads up that the LCD-2's treble is far from "rolled off". Its extended to 20,000Hz. It is pushed back however to account for the drivers bring right next to your ears. If you're a treble-head, I'd recommend the HD800s instead. But if you want a clean and natural sound without stridency in the treble, no other dynamic/ortho headphone is better IMO. 

 

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LCD-2 r.1...maybe. Less so with the LCD-2 r.2s. But every FR graph I've seen show the treble extended to 20kHz with no roll off a cliff like say say the HD650s or SE535s (more so with these).

 

Thankfully the LCD-3s have improved on that by a good margin!

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No matter how you try to rewrite it, the LCD2 has incredibly rolled off treble. Based on the graphs the 3 (never heard it) appears possibly worse in this regard. I prefer the HE5 by a long shot. Wished I could hear the 6 though.

To me, There is nothing natural about not hearing or feeling clashes of cymbals, but whatever floats your bubble.
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A lot of LCD2 apologists in this thread. Heaven forbid anyone dare claim that the cans have rolled off treble (fact). The HD650's treble isn't even as recessed. It's the crucial 1-3Khz range that really matters to rockers, not where 20KHz measures.
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No matter how you try to rewrite it, the LCD2 has incredibly rolled off treble. Based on the graphs the 3 (never heard it) appears possibly worse in this regard. I prefer the HE5 by a long shot. Wished I could hear the 6 though.

To me, There is nothing natural about not hearing or feeling clashes of cymbals, but whatever floats your bubble.

There is no rewriting anything...its called measured data. Here is rolled off treble:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE530.pdf

 

Notice not much after 10kHz and then just a single peak at 15kHz while the human ear can hear up to 20kHzish.

 

Now the LCD-2 r.2:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2Rev2.pdf

 

Extended up to 20kHz. Treble is "pushed back" to help account for the close proximity of the drivers to the listener's ears. This may not be for everyone, but the treble is indeed extended very well. Pushed back? Yes and again, YMMV with regards to this. 

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Originally Posted by applebook View Post


A lot of LCD2 apologists in this thread. Heaven forbid anyone dare claim that the cans have rolled off treble (fact). The HD650's treble isn't even as recessed. It's the crucial 1-3Khz range that really matters to rockers, not where 20KHz measures.

HD-650 vs. LCD-2...please look at the 1-3kHz range:

 

Rolled off = non-existent, rolled off a cliff like the Shure SE530s. Not many will argue with you here.

LCD-2's treble is extended to 20kHz: FACT

 

Pushed back treble: LCD-2s are guilty of this. And I (any many) love them for it. Why do we want more bright headphones, when there's  plethora to already choose from?

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by applebook View Post


A lot of LCD2 apologists in this thread. Heaven forbid anyone dare claim that the cans have rolled off treble (fact). The HD650's treble isn't even as recessed. It's the crucial 1-3Khz range that really matters to rockers, not where 20KHz measures.


LCD-2.2, at least my pair, is brighter than HD650, but of course there are brighter phones around, there is nothing wrong in liking V-shaped signature, whatever rocks your boat, float your bubble, etc. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

LCD-2 r.1...maybe. Less so with the LCD-2 r.2s. But every FR graph I've seen show the treble extended to 20kHz with no roll off a cliff like say say the HD650s or SE535s (more so with these).

 

Thankfully the LCD-3s have improved on that by a good margin!

 

 

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LCD-2.2, at least my pair, is brighter than HD650, but of course there are brighter phones around, there is nothing wrong in liking V-shaped signature, whatever rocks your boat or float your bubble, etc. smile.gif

Exactly. Nothing wrong with loving the "V" shaped D7000s. They're fun and I enjoyed them the two times I owned them. Agreed on the LCD-2 r.2s being brighter than the HD650s.

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On the DakMart product page, there is a phone number to call if you want to use Paypal. Use that (not the main) number, keep trying during business hours until someone picks up, don't bother leaving a message because they won't call back. I left a message the first time I called, then tried back in a couple of days and someone picked up. She checked stock, and emailed me an invoice. I had the headphones a few days later, this was 2-3 months ago.

 

I still listen to mine stock.

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Please look an this:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/321237/k701-appreciation-thread/2160#post_9141369

 

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Here I post my experience about my compairing K501, Q701, D7000 and use the Amber Rubarth - Sessions from the 17th Ward (on CD) too

http://www.head-fi.org/t/157102/akg-k501-love/810#post_9134621

 

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I compared now with Amber Rubarth, Session From the 17th Ward

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Amber-Rubarth-Sessions-From-The-17th-Ward/hnum/2952935

K501 lacks in bass and Amber Rubarth's voice sounds a little flashy (shrill), Q701 more balanced, with D7000 the chello and drums have the right body.

At some tracks sparrows chirping softly in the recording room, this could I hear best with D7000

 

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