[rabbitsfoot]

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now read the features here, it says the bass drivers are completely dedicated. which should in theory be an advantage, you dont see subwoofers handling other frequencies usually. so this may explain why the shures show fuller bass and the triple fi sharper highs.

The bass driver has to transition to the midrange/high frequency driver at some point or dedicated midrange drivers to work low enough to transition to the low frequency driver (Unless a single driver design of course). There are designs that have two bass drivers that allow one woofer to transition and the other to cut off precipitously (probably not a good idea to have two speakers producing some of the mids). This design is used in many speakers. The advantage is better bass power handling. Two smaller bass drivers- both producing low frequencies but only one transitioning to the mid/tweeter can be a good solution -especially if there is no midrange driver and one of the bass drivers has to work up higher into the midrange before crossing over to the tweeter. A smaller driver also has better transient response than a larger speaker. There isn't a better or worse-just different approaches to sound reproduction.

 

[jinx20001]

cheers lol i see what your getting at now, ive read a little slower. what your saying is the crossovers are a little more complex than just seperating frequencies,and it infact makes all drivers click off at certain frequencies. i still feel its always wiser to let the bass drivers just handle bass, rather than kicking in to midrange mode when the frequency comes into play

 

[user1029]

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Originally Posted by jinx20001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif ok be realistic, i like to think the super fi 5 are still some of the best consumer phones around, and as it happens has some strengths over the triple fi such as stronger bass if you desire that

blah, this is a TF10 appreciation thread so lets all express our adamant admiration for them!!

 

[rabbitsfoot]

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I agree, there are advantages to a three way (or sometimes more) system as a woofer can be dedicated to the lows, a midrange driver to the mids and a tweeter for the highs. This usually means a higher order crossover as the drivers need to roll off rather quickly between the transitions. A two way design usually indicates the woofer will operate a bit into the mids and the same for the tweeter as it has to work down into the midrange. Crossover networks are available anywhere from 6db octave slope (meaning the output of the driver being crossed over is down in level 6db per octave high, low, and band-both high and low- pass), to 48db per octave and more (you can see this rolls the driver off very fast compared to the lower order networks.) There are those that still hold to the 'simpler is better' notion citing phase problems and such with multiple/higher order crossover networks-there are many excellent designs in the various formats, and from a myriad of manufactures. Still-no rules here though, the proof is in the sound.

 

[steviebee]

Call me a late-adopter if you will but I just tried the 'flip mod' - certainly does make getting a seal that bit easier w/ T400 tips...pillow-test tonight!

 

[JoyEnergizer]

The Tiples are the best IEM I tried so far and my jouney is over!

 

[rabbitsfoot]

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Originally Posted by steviebee /img/forum/go_quote.gif Call me a late-adopter if you will but I just tried the 'flip mod' - certainly does make getting a seal that bit easier w/ T400 tips...pillow-test tonight!

Me too, I didn't try this as I didn't get a bad seal with them situated normally but playing drums (think head bobbing and weaving) would cause the seal to break. Funny thing is I couldn't use the dual-flange tips in the normal configuration but in the flip mode these work great. Not as comfortable as the olive type tips or comply tips, but once I get those babies deep, they don't come out.

 

[Nosgis]

This thread made me sell my pair of Super.fi 5 Pro, and shell out for Triple.fi. Just ordered at SoundEarphones. Can't wait to give them a try!

I still have my ES cable though. Any thoughts on using it on the Triples?

 

[wquiles]

I have the ES cable with my TF's and really like it - I think you are going to love your upcoming TF's

Will

 

[callanish]

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Originally Posted by Nosgis /img/forum/go_quote.gif This thread made me sell my pair of Super.fi 5 Pro, and shell out for Triple.fi. Just ordered at SoundEarphones. Can't wait to give them a try!

I own the superfi 5 pro's and I'm tempted to also purchase the triple-fi's; the thing is I'm reading on another thread about the sound signature being different and the bass suffers. If you had to put a percentage of loss of bass from the superfi's to the triple-fi's, what would that be? Also, on an overall scale of improvement from the 5's to the triple-fi's, is it a big improvement because I'd like more mids out of the UE's. Love the UE sound, so I don't see myself going to another brand.

Okay, I know the search tool is my friend and I could find the answers if I did deep. I just wanted to clarify the bass issue because that's the first time I've heard that the triple-fi's have actually less bass than the 5's. Is that the concensus or just an opinion?

 

[J.D.N]

Has anyone attempted a custom cable yet? Obviously the connector is the hardest part to do, but for once (never experimented with the cable effect) im kind of intrigued as the difference some silver, or silver covered OFC might sound.

Quite possibly nothing would change.... but im getting tempted.

 

[PeterDLai]

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Originally Posted by J.D.N /img/forum/go_quote.gif Has anyone attempted a custom cable yet? Obviously the connector is the hardest part to do, but for once (never experimented with the cable effect) im kind of intrigued as the difference some silver, or silver covered OFC might sound. Quite possibly nothing would change.... but im getting tempted.

Some people have attempted at it. Here's a thread about a silver custom cable at the Jaben Community forums.

 

[wquiles]

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Originally Posted by callanish /img/forum/go_quote.gif I own the superfi 5 pro's and I'm tempted to also purchase the triple-fi's; the thing is I'm reading on another thread about the sound signature being different and the bass suffers. If you had to put a percentage of loss of bass from the superfi's to the triple-fi's, what would that be? Also, on an overall scale of improvement from the 5's to the triple-fi's, is it a big improvement because I'd like more mids out of the UE's. Love the UE sound, so I don't see myself going to another brand.

I still own both, and I did not find that to be the case - I did not experience a loss on the bass. I think that going from cheap phones to the Super.Fi was about 90% improvement in SQ - simply amazing. The TF's were like the other 10% - better, but not quite a night and day difference. The bass was still awesome with the TF's

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Originally Posted by J.D.N /img/forum/go_quote.gif Has anyone attempted a custom cable yet? Obviously the connector is the hardest part to do, but for once (never experimented with the cable effect) im kind of intrigued as the difference some silver, or silver covered OFC might sound. Quite possibly nothing would change.... but im getting tempted.

You mean custom cables, but not like the Westone ES cables. This is what I used in my TF's and also what I use now in my SuperFreQs:
Hearing products for hearing professionals :: Westone

Will

 

[Usagi]

I just visited UE headquarters in Irvine to pick up some ear tips for my SF-5pro. While there, I seized an opportunity to finally demo the acclaimed Triple-Fi 10. Although my audition was limited in time, I was impressed with the improvements of a third driver; i.e. same amount of bass as the 5 pro yet better controlled, small improvements in sound stage, clarity, etc.

I would've pulled the trigger if they offered even the slightest bit of credit for my 5 pros.

 

[western120]

Everyone seems to be talking about the lack of bass on these?? Is it really that bad? I am using UM1 and do feel lack of bass, as a result I would upgrade over summer but can't decide whether to get tf10 or the SE530's. I like sweet bass but not at cost of clarity. Any comments?
thanks