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....... I just can't really offer a meaningful opinion on the pure DSD Telarcs, as Telarc have dramatically changed the way in which they mic recordings since the very early days of three mics and I feel this has influenced their sound far more than the technology itself......I do know that the Telarc SACD releases, for example, replicate the timbre of acoustic instruments rather well, but it becomes harder to judge these pure DSD releases on account of the aforementioned dramatic differences in mic setup since the "old" 50 khz PCM days.
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While I do appreciate the fact that Michael Bishop is a frequent poster on Audio Asylum and answers a lot of questions about Telarc's production process, I can't help but feel that his recordings are a huge step backwards. The midrange seems rather congested compared to the original Jack Renner discs, to the point that it simply sounds so inferior to me that I don't care if it's CD or SACD.
But to each his own, as far as recording perspective goes.....reviews of newer Telarc SACD's on SA-CD.net certainly appear to reflect a "love 'em or hate 'em" feeling among the reviewers.
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As I say, I can't speak for popular music. I haven't the faintest clue, but I reckon I'd be extremely hard pressed to tell the difference between a CD and SACD if they were mastered in an identical way. It's just an entirely different matter with classical music, and the whole recording process from session to retail packaged disk is usually very different as well.
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What gripes me is that a single popular disc can vary so markedly from cut to cut. When one looks at the credits, and finds that a cut was pieced together from sessions in three different studios (with background vocals possibly tracked in a fourth!) I suppose there is no question as to why that happens.
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.....I actually feel, however, that I would have been reasonably content with listening to Telarc SACDs on a good quality system, but it wouldn't make for much of a collection in terms of diversity.
........I've concluded that in the case of Linn, PCM sourced SACD won't do much at all to save a bad recording except to smooth out the top end just a tiny fraction and add a touch of air and energy to the high frequency extremes, however in the case of Hyperion, they just happen to pick very good recordings for SACD to begin with (which end up being a pretty small fraction of their total output). So the Hyperion SACDs always sound very good indeed.
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Agreed. There is such a slight improvement that it's not enough for me to want the "improved quality" of the SACD over a better performance. A very good performance, well recorded on CD would win out for me every time over a somewhat inferior performance on a "perfect" SACD.
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Somehow I feel that SACD is a bit of an orphan though. I just somehow feel that one has to compromise in terms of collecting what they might truly want, because this, that or the other isn't available on anything other than redbook.
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Now that I have convinced myself that I can't hear much difference between the CD and SACD layers on Telarcs, I guess that is not as much of a concern for me!
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Although I had convinced myself of the worthiness of exceptionally well mastered SACDS such as Hyperions and Telarcs, whether they be PCM sourced or DSD "pure", the concern that my collection would have been largely based on sonic grounds instead of musical ones did nothing to add to the appeal of the format.
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That seems to be the common quandary.......I have to admit, though, even if the performance is incredible, if the recording is awful, then I end up listening to the disc with better sonics. Some of the recent DGG remasters on CD of performances I loved on LP are horrifically bright and edgy--to me, thoroughly unlistenable regardless of the quality of the performance.
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And maybe I am in the minority, but I am totally lost on the point of multichannel......I think most people who do have the fortune to devote whole rooms to multichannel setups these days are more interested in the home theatre concept than they are pure audiophile pursuits.......Personally I'd much rather spend the money getting a much better two channel setup.
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At least in the classical realm, the surround channels contain real ambience information. I don't understand the concept of the "on the stage" perspective that is often used for DVD-A versions of pop/rock albums. To me, the producers should understand that a lot (if not a majority?) of residential surround systems must use in-ceiling speakers for the rear channels. If they mix for an "on stage" perspective, the result sounds like crap on such systems.