Originally Posted by MaloS
Thats exactly the statement about fanboyism. I am not picking on flavors or anything, and whatever you have at home as a big standing rig (being more expensive than my car is not hard, I don't even have one). The thing is - you aggressively engage every single person who says something negative about the product (I've seen a few posts, I just have no reason to say anything in those threads usually). In other words - you may be not married to the IEM, and not even having any desires to, but you sure behave like you do from our point of view.
As Antony noted, lots of people who have to say things otherwise for really biased opinions do not post just to avoid grudges like that.
And I am fairly surely Livewire is a good argument for the same price-range headphone, since Atrio users have fairly happily claimed that Atrios are better than ER4s (~$300), UM2 ($300) - both of which statements are frankly not true.
Aggressively engage? You're kidding, right? That's your perception, but hardly the case. Again, I just favor the Atrios over the Etys based on my experience. That's it. Not very complicated.
As for the car, etc., you are the one who stated I had little or no experience with hi-fidelity based on my signature, but hi-fi obviously extends way beyond headphones, headphone amps, etc. I wouldn't use someone's sig as a way to determine the value of their hi-fi gear in general.
Otherwise, not sure I grasp the somewhat cryptic meaning of the graph above about "As Antony noted, lots of people..." I'm sure you know what you meant to say. Fanboyism is a perjorative term that just doesn't apply here. Do I think that Atrios are the best IEMs, bar none? Of course not. I haven't heard them all. I just don't have any reason to spend $500+ for IEMs, so I guess I will never know for sure. The issue was ER4P vs. Atrio M5. Nothing more. Am I biased? Huh? If you mean by biased do I prefer one phone over another, guilty as charged.
Finally, speaking of price, I don't know where you got your Etys, but I bought mine on Amazon for $165 US, not $300. Never owned UM2s (and never said Atrios were a better IEM, as a result). Again, your view that it's a truism that the ER4Ps are (quantitatively/objectively?) better than the Atrios is frankly impossible to prove. Stats? Charts? Graphs? Meaningless to most people. The only way to decide is to listen to both, and make a choice. That's what I did, but didn't expect to be ridiculed for it (see Antony's initial post).
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. But please, enough already about the whole fanboy thing. If someone wants to post negatively about the Atrios, it's all good. Just don't attack someone because they prefer one headphone over another, no matter what the self-designated experts might say/think.