Hola,
Was wondering if anyone has made this move? Mainly wondering how the mids and highs compare to the ETY's and if anyone misses the ETY's in that regard. I have heard wonderful things about the bass with the Atrio M5 so that is not a problem.

thanks,
todd

all depends what you like the atrio's give better bass but the ety gives better mids and highs naturally,overall quality of sound there is no contest er4's run away even the bass of the atrio's dont let that one have the advantage

I think I'm going to have to agree with jinx here.

i hate to be the one to disagree but i hated certain aspects of the er4 so much but loved others. it was too painful to listen to after about 15-30 minutes for me, worse than um2 or e500.

everything plays on the pin of a needle. they are wonderful sounding but as far as naturaly, they sound nothing like a pair of speakers and that is how i like my sound. if it is to be detailed, it can still be detailed yet relaxed about it.

i prefer the softer highs of the m5 that do not tell you absolutely everything aboutthe music but rather let you listen and in peace.

between the two, if you are a detail driven listener, you should stay with the er4 or with any armature headphone but if you prefer a more relaxing speaker-like sound, the m5 is for you. i am the latter person and for that presentation found them perfectly detailed, warm and pleasing. however, i do not like the sound of balanced armatures, so remember that when listening to my opinion.

x2. In fact, I had the ER4P (with the S cable) and while I liked them initially, nothing, to me at least, means anything but the way they sound to the person doing listening. In my case, the Ety sound wasn't as satisfying as the Atrios. To say the Etys are the best by far is interesting, but hardly objective. To my admittedly untrained ears, the Atrios had a more alluring, smooth sound, and I agree with shigzeo. And I have used the Atrios for 5-6 hours at a clip, and my ears/head never grew tired of them. Try that with the Etys.

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Don't see Atrios on your list. Trust you have heard them.

Having listened to both, I can say that:
-Etys are bass anemic unless equalized: bass is deep and detaled, but it lacks quantity
-Atrio's bass has good presence, but is sometimes artificial, and can overpower the rest of the spectrum.
-The midrange on the Atrios is distant, recessed, the highs nothing to talk about.
-Etys have lovely midrange and highs. They had sibilance with Etys foam tips, but it has disappeared using the Shure black foam tips.
-When boosting bass on the Etys, they don't lose their midrange sweetness and beautiful detail: bass gains presence, and is detailed as hell
-Instrument placement is very precise with the Etymotic, and less defined with the Atrio.

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No problem with the Etys as well, just use Shure foam tips.

I don't think these two IEMs are in the same league. Provided with a good source, the Etys can trounce the M5 in every regard. Still, I'd recommend the Atrio to people who are happy if they drown in an ocean of bass and don't care for vocals, or people who'd love to get something different from the usual big names (yes, but why?).

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You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but I didn't see anyone else making smart-ass comments about people's taste if they chose the Atrio over the Ety (or vice versa). Glad your educated opinion puts you on a higher plane. Of course, you also should see someone about that apparent lack of self-esteem (ridiculing other people's views on such a subjective topic is a clear sign that you have some personal issues to work through).

Yeah, all of we hayseeds who favor the Atrios over the Etys would rather drown in an ocean of bass (the sound, not the fish), have little or no appreciation for vocals (ugh, vocals), and never want to buy anything with a "big name," whatever that means. (Who has a bigger name than Bose, in all honesty?). As I posted, I owned the Etys. So what? I still favor the Atrios, but don't feel compelled to make anyone who favors the Etys sound silly for their personal tastes.

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If I remember well, you are the one who said "recessed midrange? it's only one person opinion", after I pointed it out, in another thread where I replied in a very educated way (unlike you). Glad to see, now, that more and more people realize that these Atrio are for the most part a matter of hype. I don't feel on higher plane than anyone, so please avoid saying that in my place. But there's too much fanboyism in this forum, and sometimes I forget to be polite towards this attitude. Cheers.

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At the moment your familiarity with hi-fi equipment (judging by your signature), and posting methods do not give you the credentials to properly judge a headphone. You are entitled not to liking Etymotics, but you are not entitled to going aggressive onto the person who provides opinions vastly contrary to yours (especially when that person has significantly better experience than you do). It just does not mean **** apart from that you are a troll/flamer.

Lastly, if fanboyism in terms of expressions like yours always keeps up. Then after a while it dies down after the main leaders hear something better. (How about we pit Livewires against Atrios to be fair since the price range is similar?)

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LiveWires are ~$300 after impressions and the Future Sonics Atrio m5 is ~$140. How are these in the same price range?

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Hmmm.. I was kinda wondering exactly the same thing . The LiveWires are more than twice the price of the Future Sonics M5.....hardly a similar price range at all......

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For one, I did not say I didn't like the ER4Ps. I just found a different set of IEMs I like better. Second, saying that recessed mids were "one person's opinion" is hardly a personal attack. Third, his opinion was fine, at least until he belittled anyone who favors the Atrio over the Ety as some sort of hifi moron. Read it again. Troll? Flamer? BS. This is the first time I have ever said anything negative to anyone on this forum, and it was in response to someone who obviously felt compelled to launch a personal attack on others (not just me).

Of course, it's easy to just write it off as "fanboyism," but that's just a ridiculous characterization. I could care less about your friend's opinion on the Atrios, but there was no reason to put down anyone who favors one over the other. Plain and simple. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to come to their friend's defense. Not long, as it turns out.

For me, the Atrios offered a better sound than the Etys. Again, I could care less if anyone feels differently, but I believe I am entitled to defend myself after a personal attack. And that's what his post was all about. Not the differences between the Etys and the Atrios.

Sorry I don't meet your high audiophile standards. But I don't see the connection between my "credentials" and my right to defend myself after a personal attack.

I'm not a fanboy, I just like the Atrios more than the Etys. I don't begrudge those who feel otherwise. But I don't have be kind to a person who apparently doesn't share the same non-judgmental POV.

Oh, and as others have pointed out, the Atrios and Livewires are not in the same price range. As for my familiarity with hifi equipment, what do you know about me? Nothing. My home hifi rig, outside of this headphone stuff, is probably worth more than your car. I just don't think spending thousands of dollars on DAPs, headphones and headphone amps is worth it. Guess that's my right, no?

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I know people who would love to drown in an ocean of bass - my other half would - and he rarely listens to anything other than instrumental so he doesn't care about vocals. He doesn't even care about quality of bass so long as it's loud and there's lots of it! They'd be perfect for him if he could stand to spend more than £9.99 on a pair of headphones. . .

tsarn - did I miss something here? I don't see a 'personal' attack on anyone. Where's the 'smart ass' comment? I re-read his comments and can't see Antony 'attacked' anyone as you put it, do you think it's possible you read too much into it?

Ooops, duplicate.