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Jan 2, 2014 at 3:43 AM Post #2,371 of 2,804
jay-w said:
  Lot of money flushed away.
 
Doesn't scare me off though. It can happen with any product. I really like the decapod twist.
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Well, the product side of the problem is universal.
 
The pain comes from the amount involved, and the months of waiting to get a reply.
 
Surprisingly the dealer seemed to communicate, but the company didn't. Usually its the other way round.
 
Jan 2, 2014 at 7:15 AM Post #2,372 of 2,804
proton007 said:
   
Well, the product side of the problem is universal.
 
The pain comes from the amount involved, and the months of waiting to get a reply.
 
Surprisingly the dealer seemed to communicate, but the company didn't. Usually its the other way round.
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True. I can't help but feel that with three parties involved and seemingly all in different native languages in different countries the communication wasn't great. Nakaya dropped the ball on this one. 
 
Jan 2, 2014 at 8:21 AM Post #2,373 of 2,804
jay-w said:
True. I can't help but feel that with three parties involved and seemingly all in different native languages in different countries the communication wasn't great. Nakaya dropped the ball on this one. 
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Language shouldn't be an issue nowadays. Even the free online translators are almost accurate.

However this got me thinking. The cost of Nakayas is due to the fact that the pens are hand made. The most common justification of the price tends to be that each pen is unique because of small variations.

I find it rather absurd. Every pen, whether it's mass produced or hand made, will eventually wear to the user's hand and style. Every used pen is unique in that sense.
So, whats the value add in a handmade pen then? Brand value? Hype? That seems the case.
 
Jan 4, 2014 at 6:08 AM Post #2,374 of 2,804
Nobody said it had to make sense 
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. I mean the guy was spending $1200. It's a pen. Even the $550 for the standard models is stretching it in my opinion.
 
I think people that buy these handmade items place a higher value on something that a human being has crafted. Paying the artisan with their creativity and their art and craft so to speak. Whatever. 
 
On the other hand personally I still cannot bring myself to pay a lot of money for a fountain pen made out of precious resin or acrylic. I see that and think plastic. For the prices you would hope it had a bloody good nib.
 
Jan 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM Post #2,375 of 2,804
jay-w said:
  Nobody said it had to make sense 
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. I mean the guy was spending $1200. It's a pen. Even the $550 for the standard models is stretching it in my opinion.
 
I think people that buy these handmade items place a higher value on something that a human being has crafted. Paying the artisan with their creativity and their art and craft so to speak. Whatever. 
 
On the other hand personally I still cannot bring myself to pay a lot of money for a fountain pen made out of precious resin or acrylic. I see that and think plastic. For the prices you would hope it had a bloody good nib.
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Yep. Even for $550 its a stretch.  The MB 149 seems like a good deal in comparison
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My understanding is that its pretty similar to how people sell art. Hype sells it and maintains its value. People praise it everywhere, no one says anything negative in case they have to sell the piece they own.
 
Jan 6, 2014 at 8:49 AM Post #2,377 of 2,804
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That's some skilful work.
 
However, if you'll see a video of any newer manufacturing process, you'll find it's mostly hand operated machinery. The cutting and welding, slitting of nibs is of course done by machines, but performing an operation on the nib, checking and fine tuning is still done by hand most gold nibs.
 
Jan 14, 2014 at 2:21 AM Post #2,381 of 2,804
Whats up with people and converters lately? I saw someone over at FPN mentioning they *HATE* the con-70.  In capitals. Any bad experiences ?
 
Jan 14, 2014 at 4:07 AM Post #2,383 of 2,804
silent one said:
  NONE. 
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Me neither.
Infact I find it simpler and more functional, easy to repair.

Moreover, the Con-70 has never harassed me or my family, ran away on its own, made a mess or called up the police. Its as good as a converter can get. I wonder what the problem is.
 
Jan 14, 2014 at 4:28 AM Post #2,384 of 2,804
proton007 said:
 
 
Me neither.
Infact I find it simpler and more functional, easy to repair.

Moreover, the Con-70 has never harassed me or my family, ran away on its own, made a mess or called up the police. Its as good as a converter can get. I wonder what the problem is.
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I realize everyone has a different reality. But I may have to visit FPN just to see! 
 
Jan 14, 2014 at 10:36 AM Post #2,385 of 2,804

 
I'm still in the vintage mode right now. That metal Falcon is getting edged down the "to buy" list as well with the Italix Parson Essential and Orginalis being very, very attractive right now(Seriously, nibs by Leonardt...) as well as wanting to get a Pelikan sometime, although I'm somewhat conflicted between the M200, the M200 demonstrator and the rather cool looking M205 white. At some point this year I'd also like to try out a Visconti. Not sure if my local pen store has one of those and I can't check until the Easter break.
 
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