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Thanks to a very generous ayt999 (Alex), I've been able to compare three new headphones in my system: the Sony R10, Sony Qualia 010, and JVC DX1000, in addition to the L3000, W2002, W11jpn, and HP2 I already owned. Certainly, given a chance to sample all the greatest dynamic headphones, any veteran head-fi'er with their wits about them would be able to crown one set their personal "king" of headphones, right? Not so fast
I have to admit there is no one headphone that reigns supreme in *every* application, every genre of music for me. How depressing...
[size=medium]Photos[/size]
All the headphones together:
R10:
Some of the music used:
[size=medium]System[/size]
Main rig:
Sony SCD-1 SACD/CD Player
HGA Silver Lace RCA interconnects
Singlepower SDS (old chassis), 1x TungSol roundplate 6sn7, 2x TungSol 5687 D-getter tubes in Singlepower SLAM adaptors.
Computer rig:
ESI Juli@ soundcard
Outlaw PCA interconnects
Sugden Headmaster
[size=medium]Impressions[/size]
Sony MDR-R10:
I declare these headphones The King of Headphones for classical music. Also, I declare them King of vocals, King of detail, and King of midrange, for that matter. With so many strengths it's no wonder this set is the most frequently tagged as "The King". Truly, they are very special with music that plays into these strengths. I'm not much of a classical fan; hell I've hardly listened to any of it in the last few years. The R10 redefines the genre for me. I have no doubt that were I to own the R10, I would swiftly become a full-blown classical fan. The Amadeus Soundtrack SACD w/ R10 combo regularly gave me the chills. They render music with a concert hall ambiance nothing else can match. Midrange tonality is also unmatched and utterly perfect in its naturality. It's not cold, not warm, not even neutral - just natural. Imaging is so precise that vocalists materialize inside your head and their singing is literally palpable. Did I mention detail? You can have a full-scale orchestra playing full blast, and each instrument is rendered as if it's the only thing playing. Perfect. Unfortunately, they're still not the perfect headphone for me. I don't like the R10 with rock, or pop music. See, the R10's have treble energy. LOTS of it. They also are lacking in bass quantity compared to...L3000, Qualis, DX1000, HP2...basically *everything* I have on hand. Somehow this works great with classical, or with slower paced, well-recorded, vocal heavy stuff like Patricia Barber. It doesn't work with rock. Listening to Rush (Presto, Fly By Night, Hold Your Fire) and Jethro Tull CDs (Songs From The Wood, Broadsword and the Beast, Stand Up) was bordering on painful. One of my favorite J-Pop/anime soundtrack CDs (Marmalade Boy Soundtrack) didn't fare any better. They did significantly better with rock when balanced out of an upgraded SDS-XLR, but still not as well as I'd hoped. I would love to own these headphones in the future (sooner the better
) just for their merits on classical & vocals, but they cost a fortune, supply is scarce, and I'd still need to use the L3000 for rock.
Audio-Technica L3000
King of Rock! Still my undisputed king of rock. King of bass. The L3000 is a headphone with phenomenal muscle, slam, guts, and bass impact. The sheer sense of power and emotion conveyed kills any other headphone. If Grados reproduce guitars well, then the L3000 IS the guitar. How did they fit all those different guitars and tube amps inside those leather cups?
Resolution not quite up to the levels of R10 and Qualia, but I’d say still better than any other dynamic. An excellent all-genre headphone; it sounds a bit like what I’d expect if the HD650 were bumped up a couple of levels, with additional tweaks favoring the rock genre (intimate small/medium room sized soundstage, etc.). It does have a bit of a warm coloration to the midrange. Midrange and bass are quite forward compared to the treble.
Sony Qualia 010:
The Qualia is...um...king of enigmas? Seriously, I really do like the Qualias quite a bit, just sometimes I can't fully figure out why
Let's see - I guess for now I can declare them King of acoustic guitar. Hmm, probably King of microdynamics. They're also in 2nd place just behind the R10s in overall detail retrieval, in the classical genre, and in reproduction of metal percussion. Not too bad with most rock, despite the high detail and abundance of treble energy; the excellent speed and significant amounts of bass may be its saving graces here. The Qualias are a headphone that is diabolically dependant on a precision fit. The first time you put them on, there is a high chance that pair will not fit you well. Then, there's some chance you'll be able to adjust that pair (via a small screwdriver) to fit you. Assuming you end up with a pair that fits you, there's a good chance you'll botch the positioning on the first several tries. Wait, remember you have to get a good seal too...oops, watch out for the cheekbone - that'll throw things totally out of whack. So far, my optimal position (roughly) is with the lower earlobe tucked under the lower lip of the leather pad and my back ear flap under the back lip of the pad (forward, and up on the head). I did need some extra padding between my head and the headband (Medium size) to secure this positioning
First time I plopped these on, I though they were the worst headphone I'd tried in recent memory. It was the most hollow, echo-ish, cavernous sound I'd heard in years. After feeling out the fit, my opinion improved rapidly. OK, even once you get the fit right, some of that hollow cavernous sound will likely linger. The tonality is not perfect, which is surprising since the previous R10's got it perfect. Still, given a chance, the brain seems to be able to adapt for this. Unlike, say, boomy bass, smeared transients, or lack of detail - the brain largely cannot adapt for these flaws, which fortunately the Qualia is completely free from. Perhaps the designers chose to focus on aspects of sound quality that the human/ear interface could not easily adapt for. It's like watching a high end HDTV with a slight blue color cast vs. watching a standard def TV that's properly calibrated - the eye will adapt to the blue cast such the display's blue-ish whites eventually look pure white. However, you'll never be able to make up for the lack of detail on the other TV.
After a while I found the Qualias were able to just disappear on certain songs/albums. For me, the Qualias really shone on Kenny Loggin's Back to Pooh Corner song (heh) and Neil Young's Greatest Hits. Serious disappearing factor on these. Spine chills, too. They also did extremely well with Diana Krall , Mary Chapin Carpenter, and also the little j-pop/anime I tried.
The speed of these headphones significantly improves with an aftermarket cable. Either the Moon Audio Black Dragon or Alex's own Wyvern Audio Qualia cable will put these cans where they should be. Both Alex and I agree the quality difference from cable rolling is more profound on the Qualias than with the HD650.
Despite the oddities, I liked what I heard from the Qualias enough to buy my own pair (w/ black dragon cable). Finding a great deal really helped in pulling the trigger. Mine have red pads. Alex's are blue. As far as I can tell, the pad color causes no difference in sound quality.
I'll probably also purchase the Wyvern Audio cable in the near future.
JVC HP-DX1000
These are King of...mp3's on the computer
The ESI Julia@ and Sugden Headmaster round out the mp3 system. I don't mean to disrespect this headphone - like the Qualias, I liked the DX1000 enough that I now own it (I have little self control
). In fact I'm quite fascinated how the JVC acts like a respectable high end $1000+ level headphone in a proper audiophile system, yet it also doesn't slap me on the face and remind me that I'm listening to mp3's on a computer system when placed in that environment. Overall, a warm lush headphone signature like what I typically prefer. Just enough treble energy to sparkle and shimmer where necessary; not enough to cause listening fatigue. Mids are smooth, warm, and lush, but still quite snappy! Bass is a bit - voluptuous - but not out of control – the result can be lovely. I love how the extra bass on the JVC fills in some of the bass typically missing/attenuated in the computer rig. Detail, impact, smoothness - all that good stuff - is right about where it should be for a $800 headphone, IMO. Pop it in the SDS/SCD-1 rig and it’s just right below the R10/Qualia/L3000 in the 2nd tier of dynamic headphones. I’d place it on about the same level of the HP1000 in overall musical enjoyment. At least sonically, I’d gladly trade in my W11jpn or W2002 for the JVC. IMO this should easily be the best headphone in current production (I don’t like the Omega II).
Grado HP-2 w/ JGUWBWRC
Sadly, I doubt I can consider these the king of anything. King of neutrality? How can one tell what’s really neutral with recorded music? The R10 sounds tonally more natural in the midrange. Still, the HP2s are very nice sounding headphones. Of bass, mids, and highs - mids are the most pronounced of the three here. Tonally, the midrange is a bit on the cool (think cool, clear water) side. Contrast that to the warmish mids on the L3000, HD650, DX1000, etc. Bass is extremely tight and snappy, just behind the Qualias in this area. Quantity wise, the bass is plentiful, just not as much as the L3000 and still a bit behind the HP2 mids. Treble is non-fatiguing, a bit subdued but can sparkle (joining the L3000, HD650, DX1000 in this trait), which is how I like it for most music. Among the most grainless of dynamics – though once again the R10 has it beat. IMO these lag behind the R10/Qualia/L3000 in resolution and ability to keep up with complex music – individual notes get a bit smeared. Overall a very, very nice sounding headphone that works well with all genres. I must admit they’re probably the best I’ve heard with DVD movies, however I’ve yet to try the R10/Qualia/L3000 in this application (seems almost wrong to do so). The forward, crisp mids make movie dialogue a joy to listen to – their musicality is also very flattering to musical scores/soundtracks. Flat pads are the only way to fly here, IMO.
[size=medium]EDIT:[/size] Added a few more impressions on my new R10 here: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showp...9&postcount=41
[size=medium]Photos[/size]
All the headphones together:
R10:
Some of the music used:
[size=medium]System[/size]
Main rig:
Sony SCD-1 SACD/CD Player
HGA Silver Lace RCA interconnects
Singlepower SDS (old chassis), 1x TungSol roundplate 6sn7, 2x TungSol 5687 D-getter tubes in Singlepower SLAM adaptors.
Computer rig:
ESI Juli@ soundcard
Outlaw PCA interconnects
Sugden Headmaster
[size=medium]Impressions[/size]
Sony MDR-R10:
I declare these headphones The King of Headphones for classical music. Also, I declare them King of vocals, King of detail, and King of midrange, for that matter. With so many strengths it's no wonder this set is the most frequently tagged as "The King". Truly, they are very special with music that plays into these strengths. I'm not much of a classical fan; hell I've hardly listened to any of it in the last few years. The R10 redefines the genre for me. I have no doubt that were I to own the R10, I would swiftly become a full-blown classical fan. The Amadeus Soundtrack SACD w/ R10 combo regularly gave me the chills. They render music with a concert hall ambiance nothing else can match. Midrange tonality is also unmatched and utterly perfect in its naturality. It's not cold, not warm, not even neutral - just natural. Imaging is so precise that vocalists materialize inside your head and their singing is literally palpable. Did I mention detail? You can have a full-scale orchestra playing full blast, and each instrument is rendered as if it's the only thing playing. Perfect. Unfortunately, they're still not the perfect headphone for me. I don't like the R10 with rock, or pop music. See, the R10's have treble energy. LOTS of it. They also are lacking in bass quantity compared to...L3000, Qualis, DX1000, HP2...basically *everything* I have on hand. Somehow this works great with classical, or with slower paced, well-recorded, vocal heavy stuff like Patricia Barber. It doesn't work with rock. Listening to Rush (Presto, Fly By Night, Hold Your Fire) and Jethro Tull CDs (Songs From The Wood, Broadsword and the Beast, Stand Up) was bordering on painful. One of my favorite J-Pop/anime soundtrack CDs (Marmalade Boy Soundtrack) didn't fare any better. They did significantly better with rock when balanced out of an upgraded SDS-XLR, but still not as well as I'd hoped. I would love to own these headphones in the future (sooner the better
Audio-Technica L3000
King of Rock! Still my undisputed king of rock. King of bass. The L3000 is a headphone with phenomenal muscle, slam, guts, and bass impact. The sheer sense of power and emotion conveyed kills any other headphone. If Grados reproduce guitars well, then the L3000 IS the guitar. How did they fit all those different guitars and tube amps inside those leather cups?
Sony Qualia 010:
The Qualia is...um...king of enigmas? Seriously, I really do like the Qualias quite a bit, just sometimes I can't fully figure out why
First time I plopped these on, I though they were the worst headphone I'd tried in recent memory. It was the most hollow, echo-ish, cavernous sound I'd heard in years. After feeling out the fit, my opinion improved rapidly. OK, even once you get the fit right, some of that hollow cavernous sound will likely linger. The tonality is not perfect, which is surprising since the previous R10's got it perfect. Still, given a chance, the brain seems to be able to adapt for this. Unlike, say, boomy bass, smeared transients, or lack of detail - the brain largely cannot adapt for these flaws, which fortunately the Qualia is completely free from. Perhaps the designers chose to focus on aspects of sound quality that the human/ear interface could not easily adapt for. It's like watching a high end HDTV with a slight blue color cast vs. watching a standard def TV that's properly calibrated - the eye will adapt to the blue cast such the display's blue-ish whites eventually look pure white. However, you'll never be able to make up for the lack of detail on the other TV.
After a while I found the Qualias were able to just disappear on certain songs/albums. For me, the Qualias really shone on Kenny Loggin's Back to Pooh Corner song (heh) and Neil Young's Greatest Hits. Serious disappearing factor on these. Spine chills, too. They also did extremely well with Diana Krall , Mary Chapin Carpenter, and also the little j-pop/anime I tried.
The speed of these headphones significantly improves with an aftermarket cable. Either the Moon Audio Black Dragon or Alex's own Wyvern Audio Qualia cable will put these cans where they should be. Both Alex and I agree the quality difference from cable rolling is more profound on the Qualias than with the HD650.
Despite the oddities, I liked what I heard from the Qualias enough to buy my own pair (w/ black dragon cable). Finding a great deal really helped in pulling the trigger. Mine have red pads. Alex's are blue. As far as I can tell, the pad color causes no difference in sound quality.
JVC HP-DX1000
These are King of...mp3's on the computer
Grado HP-2 w/ JGUWBWRC
Sadly, I doubt I can consider these the king of anything. King of neutrality? How can one tell what’s really neutral with recorded music? The R10 sounds tonally more natural in the midrange. Still, the HP2s are very nice sounding headphones. Of bass, mids, and highs - mids are the most pronounced of the three here. Tonally, the midrange is a bit on the cool (think cool, clear water) side. Contrast that to the warmish mids on the L3000, HD650, DX1000, etc. Bass is extremely tight and snappy, just behind the Qualias in this area. Quantity wise, the bass is plentiful, just not as much as the L3000 and still a bit behind the HP2 mids. Treble is non-fatiguing, a bit subdued but can sparkle (joining the L3000, HD650, DX1000 in this trait), which is how I like it for most music. Among the most grainless of dynamics – though once again the R10 has it beat. IMO these lag behind the R10/Qualia/L3000 in resolution and ability to keep up with complex music – individual notes get a bit smeared. Overall a very, very nice sounding headphone that works well with all genres. I must admit they’re probably the best I’ve heard with DVD movies, however I’ve yet to try the R10/Qualia/L3000 in this application (seems almost wrong to do so). The forward, crisp mids make movie dialogue a joy to listen to – their musicality is also very flattering to musical scores/soundtracks. Flat pads are the only way to fly here, IMO.
[size=medium]EDIT:[/size] Added a few more impressions on my new R10 here: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showp...9&postcount=41