Pink noise for breaking in V6s?
Sep 8, 2001 at 3:03 PM Post #2 of 30
And why would you do that? If you really believe the V6 sounds different after "burn-in" (it DOESN'T! I've been using V6s and 7506s for more than a decade. They sound exactly the same now as when they were new!), they why don't you simply play music through them for several days? Music has actual dynamic range, and it seems to me would "exercise" the magnetic system and suspension better than steady noise at one volume level!

At any rate, why not use a program like Cool Edit 2000 to generate the noise source if you insist on using it, or (MUCH simpler) disconnect the antenna from your fm tuner or receiver, turn off the "muting", and tune to an empty spot on the fm dial. Voila! There's your noise source!
 
Sep 8, 2001 at 4:33 PM Post #3 of 30
hmm, you're gonna listen to pink noise? or are you going to not listen to them?
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weird man! I got a Pink Noise mp3 here...extremely boring stuff!

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Sep 8, 2001 at 6:26 PM Post #5 of 30
*somehow felt a bit of hostility in Mikes post*

For the record, I've never audiotioned a pair of V6s, nor have I ever claimed to, nor have I ever claimed V6s sounded different after burn in.

I simply thought from a few posts I've read here that playing pink noise through the phones was a better way to burn them in, figuring the V6s would be no exception. If that ain't the case, I never claimed to be anything more then a novice at this **** (though I don't exactly have a desire to be anything more then that), so just chill.
 
Sep 8, 2001 at 6:45 PM Post #6 of 30
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Originally posted by massappeal85
*somehow felt a bit of hostility in Mikes post*



Many of his posts come off that way, but I don't get the impression he means anything by it.

For whatever it's worth (Mike's grimacing now I'm sure), I've used pink noise for burn-in before. It seems to work well. And to add an opposing viewpoint, I found my V6's and 7506's sounded slightly different when the 7506's were new. Although someone proposed a very interesting theory once regarding the earpads, and how that might be one of the big factors in the change of sound during headphone break-in. Could be. But I've had phones that were hardly worn that showed changes after leaving them on for a long time with pink noise and/or music -- it's hard to say, and it's an endless debate, but I think break-in does mean something (and, yes, earpads can be a factor in my opinion).
 
Sep 8, 2001 at 9:38 PM Post #7 of 30
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jude said...

For whatever it's worth (Mike's grimacing now I'm sure),


More like chomping at the bit!
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Mike isn't trying to be insulting w/ his posts (I don't think), but he is very passionate about what he knows to be true, and his statements reflect that. If you've ever wondered how he got his custom title, now you know! Of course, sometimes what he knows is true isn't necessarily what other people know is true, thus disagreement.

I know this (burn-in) is one area where Mike and I disagree. At least for the 580s, we disagree. I won't comment on the V6s, since I don't have them. FWIW, pink noise should work alright, though I'd also throw in some tracks w/ REAL low bass, get them loosened up.
 
Sep 8, 2001 at 10:36 PM Post #8 of 30
I mean NO offense, and if any is given I apologize! I look at it like having a passionate discussion with a friend (which I consider people here to be). We can get in each other's face(s) (so to speak), and still be buddies, right?
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I can come across as a bit, well, blunt. But I NEVER intend hurting anyone's feelings, or pissing them off merely for the sake of doing it (although I certainly don't mind pissing off someone over PRINCIPLE). I will try to be more sensitive to the way things I write may be taken (as offensive), if you guys will try to understand I'm usually grinning while I write this sh#t
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Enjoy your weekend!
Mike
 
Sep 8, 2001 at 11:56 PM Post #9 of 30
i used a combination of pink noise generated by cool edit pro & nine inch nail's "downward spiral" cd to burn in my cans, which has a large variety of punchy low & high frequency sounds on it. just don't blow out your transducers. i don't know if burn in really makes a difference in the physical world, but psychoacoustically speaking it made a difference to me.
 
Sep 9, 2001 at 4:48 AM Post #10 of 30
Mike is cool ,he will tell you what he thinks and pull no punches but never go down in the mud just to do so

BUT DON"T GET THIS MAN GOING (hehehe) !

Thought I was bad.............
 
Sep 9, 2001 at 6:44 AM Post #11 of 30
I don't know about the effects of burn-in on the V6/7506 (although Jude swears there is a difference). However, I can say with all certainty that on SOME cans, there is definitely an audible difference between out-of-the-box and after-burn-in. There is even a MEASURABLE difference. It only makes sense, given the materials from which headphone drivers/flexures are constructed. Most materials show changes in their physical properties after being bent/moved many, many times.
 
Sep 9, 2001 at 7:09 AM Post #12 of 30
Probably depends on the headphone...for example Beyer diapghrams are very rubbery/pliable. AKG's are pretty hard and rigid. Senn's probably inbetween. Course I don't condone anyone to be touchy feely with extremely sensitive equipment.

At the very least you would want to break in your headphones to find out if they work. If they can last the first couple of weeks of continuous playing they should last for years. Better figure out if there are problems with them sooner than later. Course given the track record for V6's, reliability isn't that big an issue...

Bass tones will give the voice coils and diapghram the biggest workout, not pink noise. It definitely should NOT be loud...especially if you have difficulty hearing bass tones in the first place. You can try and listen to characteristics like possible wolf tones, grattle issues, L/R balance, and the like as well.
 
Sep 9, 2001 at 2:06 PM Post #14 of 30
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I can come across as a bit, well, blunt. But I NEVER intend hurting anyone's feelings, or pissing them off merely for the sake of doing it (although I certainly don't mind pissing off someone over PRINCIPLE). I will try to be more sensitive to the way things I write


Nah, we like Blunt Mike, no body wants sensitive Mike! That's like have laid back Grado's or a Headroom amp without crossfeed!
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Tim D :
Well, Burning in headphones worked for me, so give it a try.
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