Got my EMU 0404 - need some help
Jan 21, 2006 at 2:28 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 4

MD1032

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This soundcard is crazy. It simply has too much... soundcard in it!
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OK, well firstly I plugged it in and was surprised that after installation, I brought up foobar, hit play, and immediately sound came out, even with Kernel Streaming configured for my old card. My question is how to optimize the card's output performance. The card is capable of 32-bit 196 khz. output, right? And I'd like to make use of that, so how do I do it?

I tried downloading the newest ASIO for starters, but whatever idiot compiled it put some kind of weird extension *.2.7z

So basically, ASIO4ALL is already installed, I just can't use it because I don't have the foobar plugin. Currently, the sound is going through the "wav" as follows:

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And as you can see, output is 44.1 khz, which could mean either it's actually outputting as 44.1, or it's detecting that the MP3's are 44.1. At any rate, whatever will make it better would help!
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I'm also planning to hook up my keyboard to the card (one of the reasons I wanted the card) and I'm eager to hear MidiTzer with a real keyboard attached!

Oh, and this card blows the Chaintech away. There's so much more depth to the sound and the bass feels like it's turned way up compared to before. Sounds excellent with my organ recordings and really lets you feel the music!

edit: KS must not be working! Windows sounds are not interfering with playback. Could use some help here.
 
Jan 21, 2006 at 2:39 AM Post #2 of 4
Jan 21, 2006 at 3:14 AM Post #3 of 4
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Originally Posted by MD1032
This soundcard is crazy. It simply has too much... soundcard in it!
biggrin.gif


OK, well firstly I plugged it in and was surprised that after installation, I brought up foobar, hit play, and immediately sound came out, even with Kernel Streaming configured for my old card. My question is how to optimize the card's output performance. The card is capable of 32-bit 196 khz. output, right? And I'd like to make use of that, so how do I do it?



Do you have any such material at all? I suggest you create PatchMix sessions for 44.1 and 48 kHz, that should do for now.

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I tried downloading the newest ASIO for starters, but whatever idiot compiled it put some kind of weird extension *.2.7z


No comment. (Hint: Version number.)

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Currently, the sound is going through the "wav" as follows:

EMUdisplay.jpg


Looks OK, though the main volume slider is too low. At almost -50dBFS, you're wasting quite a bit of the dynamic range. Looking at this interface, it's not surprising that it's kinda hard to get a simple bit-perfect data stream - I'd rather have a Juli@...

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And as you can see, output is 44.1 khz, which could mean either it's actually outputting as 44.1, or it's detecting that the MP3's are 44.1. At any rate, whatever will make it better would help!
smily_headphones1.gif


44.1 kHz is the default for PatchMix. There is no automagic sample rate setting with these cards, you have to set them up accordingly with PatchMix to avoid resampling. What sampling rate your files have, that's something you should know. For ex-CD material it'll be 44.1 kHz.

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edit: KS must not be working! Windows sounds are not interfering with playback. Could use some help here.


The waveOut driver is bypassing the kernel mixer, thus I'd assume the device is blocked when something else is playing. (Before the WDM architecture, being able to feed multiple streams to one sound card was fairly nifty and certainly not standard.) Try playing something in another app using waveOut while Foobar is playing, then you should get an error message. As for how to mix multiple waveOut streams and whether this is possible at all, best consult the PatchMix manual.
 
Jan 21, 2006 at 3:31 AM Post #4 of 4
Downloaded the newest everything, extracted the dll file into the components folder, and ASIO output is working. Sounds much better to say the least. The highs are back. I have no idea why, but before the highs and mids were getting swallowed by everything else and it was simply too bassy and even bloated sounding. The card really sound fantastic now. The low bass is spectacular now. This makes absolutely no sense, but what the heck.

As for the control panel, what is the best solution here? I need a way to lower the output volume. What is the best volume control to do this with? Lowering the Patchmix's main volume does indeed have a really large impact on sound quality output (when it's near zero, it sounds clipped down), very much unlike my Chaintech's "rear output" slider where I could place near zero and have it sound the same.

edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention. EMU's own daughter card's connector isn't compatible with the main card. There is one hole that is sealed off, but the female connector on the main card doesn't have a missing pin to allow it to enter! Extremely dumb on EMU's part.
 

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