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that's crazy! if sony starts releasing cds that cannot be copied by md recorders, they're going to kill their minidisc format. i mean, that's the whole point of minidisc--to copy your cds. talk about shooting yourself in the foot. if this gets any worse i may have to go with the "black box".

That would be insane. It'd be a real pain to have to rip them to my computer. But then, I do have a fortissimo 2, which strips scms if you go optical in then optical out. I'm wondering if I would output my cd through the optical if it would be stripped as well. . .

Well, that's modern industry: Rather than alluring the comsumer with good and priceworthy products, they rather do a lot of lobby work to push through laws like DMCA in the U.S. and similar legislation in the EU, that cripple consumers' rights. As soon as the new legislation is adapted to local German law, stuff like copy bit removers will be illegal here, too. Actually, even reporting about anything to defeat copy protections - e.g. in a computer magazine - will bring you in trouble. And then there is computer hardware with secure digital data paths ahead, too. I just wonder why the industry doesn't realize, that they are on their best way to piss off a quickly growing number of good customers - more and more are already going on strike and just don't buy the crippled stuff, anymore. But there's a good aspect, too: Vinyl is back into focus for a lot of music lovers, at least.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / Lini

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i just ripped led zep's coda and zep 4 from vinyl to my md deck. got tired of seeing that "no copy" signal very time i put a music dvd in.