one thing i learned was that once i did go off to college and came back home my parents sort of left me alone to spend my money as i pleased....

just hang in there.....besides....i look at my cans,amp, etc..as investement for the future....

ray

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I would think a lot would change in that year. When I was 16, I had to account for every moment I was gone from the house, who I was hanging around with, etc. (And some of my buddies weren't "chior boys" either). But I did it and my parents LEARNED they could trust me.

When I was 17, I moved away to college with a new car and the most significan't part of the lecture I got from dad was "Son, if you go anywhere, I hope your driving because you're a good driver."

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His folks aren't the government or country - the mass that is totally indifferent to his existance unless he can give them something! His folks are the flesh and blood that lost countless DAYS of sleep because of his crying due to loud noises or the darkness, changed an out house full of dirty diapers, gave up the freedom to have sex without fear of interuption for at least 18years(!), cleaned up gallons of BARF, listened to whining until they're ears were numb, drove station wagons instead of Corvette's, and a countless list of other sacrifices so JLO could have a decent life, a computer, internet access, a pair of headphones and something to play music with.

And on the note of personal values, TO ME, anybody that makes that kind of sacrifice for someone else deserves at least a minimal respect for their value system.

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Horse Hockey! Its about his parents desire to teach him about the real world: Sometimes it takes more than just hard work.

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He never has to stop listening to his parents. No, when he turns 18, he is going to be HELD very responsible for his own actions whether he wants it or not, and when he turns 21, he is going to be responsible for his actions and can legally be held responsible for a LOT of actions of anyone under the age of 21 within a 100' radius of him.

And you hit the key word in this: CONSEQUENCES. Your talking about him EXPERIENCING the consequences. His parents sound like they want him to THINK about the consequences (good or bad) so that he can avoid some of the bad ones.





I'm sorry if I got ugly, but I get real ticked when I hear people knock parents that have more than a passing interest in the well being of their children. I watched my folks sacrifice for me and my family (including my Grandma's, an Uncle, & several cousins) even to this day, both finacially and otherwise.

So unless the parent is using their kid for an ashtray, punching bag, sex toy, or verbal garbage can, I am not going to discount an interest they have in, or their influence on how their yung'ins spend their money, spend their time, and ultimately spend their life.

Someone said time is money. So that fist full of dollars can represent a chunk of someones life.

u got a car? wow...i'll be lucky to afford food and shelter lol...

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Excellent point. His parents OWE it to him to support him. The idea that somehow the money he makes on his own is really his parents' is ********. Until you turn 18, it a parent's DUTY, not choice to support you.

Well andrzejpw now that this is resolved do you have any more issues. I think one thing that all this lacked is a real knowledge of you and your parents. There was good and IMO questionable advice in this thread but it was based on a very narrow slice of your 16 years. I hope it all works out.

This thread really gave me a new outlook on a few things. My dad and I are in the process of ordering parts for the amp. I chose them, and were making some final adjustments, etc.

In case anyone cares, my wad of money is up to $1250!

What to do with it? Save it, I guess.

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Isn't it obvious?

do-it-yourself interconnects
do-it-yourself power cables
do-it-yourself-power supply
do-it-yourself DAC

I figure your dad has opened a can of worms. Take advantage of it and he'll either help you build some cool stuff or he'll give up, realize the value of paying for someone else's labor and let you buy what you want. Win-win for you, I say.

Interesting thread... seems that most of the younger folks that have commented seem to have the attitude that andrzejpw ought to be able to do what he wants with his money. The general impression from the parents at this site seems to be understanding what andrzejpw's Dad is doing.

Seems to be viewed by the younger folks purely as a control issue. The younger folks probably feel that they have little control ... but buying stuff with their own money is one way of obtaining that control. Efforts to block this "independence" aren't generally taken well. Don't know for sure, but I'd bet andrzejpw's Dad isn't focusing on controlling his son's behavior for the sake of control... he's trying to instill worthwhile lessons.

I'd love to see the reactions to the younger folks who have posted during this thread once they become parents and their kids get to be teenagers and they are faced with similar issues!

Good luck andrzejpw!
Bruce

In these situations I always refere to the golden rule:

He who has the Gold Makes The Rules

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Personally, I noticed this as well, and I thought it would be that way.

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I think many of us on the "younger side" have acknowledged as such. I personally question the value of the lesson or if any such lesson can be taught in this manner. The best course of action would be to allow Andrjez to triumph or err on his own stead. Whether the lesson be "learning the value of money/labor" or "spend your money wisely" or "don't fall prey to fads" or "don't get ripped off," Andrjez is well positioned to learn this on his own while puttling little at risk. On the other hand, his father's decision might be teaching him another lesson--"Wait til you're 18 and then go buck-wild with really large sums of money."

I am 23 years of age, not too old I hope. But I understand where your parents's comments are coming from, there are a lot more important things in life than Audio equipment. It might seems like a good idea now, but spending ALL your money on 1 thing won't help if you do the same thing when you are out in the real world. I am not implying that you will, it's just that it's good practice/habbit to spend "reasonable" amount on luxury stuff.

How would I know? I have a £3000 Hifi/Headphones system there that I won't be able to cash in when I go back to college this year! I do have some money saved up but that £3000 will go a LONG way to making my 2 years Masters a lot more comfortable, I am not saying I will be hunrgy but it'll mean I won't need to worry about every little thing I buy at college.

DIY is a good way to getting a good sound, best bang for bug really. Start with powercord and interconnetors, they are simple projects that you can do in hours if not minutes. That can bring great benifits with minmal cost.