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Ricky,
I've been in the hobby for a long time now (and used to work hi-fi retail way back in college), so you can probably imagine that, by now, I've seen, and been involved in, many debates about this. I've seen the debate, from either side, attacked from pretty much all possible angles. And when it comes to audio, there are debates aplenty. Interconnects. Power cables. DBT is/isn't effective. CD players (fancy units versus less expensive gear that seem to measure as well). CD vs. SACD. Analog vs. digital. Tweaks. Tubes vs. solid state. Amplifiers sound/don't sound different. I've seen it argued both ways by engineers and science-minded folks (we have engineers and people who make their living in science in our member base here too); and what it almost always amounts to is that very little convincing is done either way. What you usually end up with are 300-post threads with a lot of insults and vitriol -- I'll pass, thank you.
I've read your arguments, and the arguments of those who feel the same as you over the years, yet I continue to listen to relatively expensive headphone amps, relatively expensive headphones, relatively expensive interconnects, SACD, expensive headphone cables, all hooked up to power conditioners through not-very-inexpensive power cables. And there's little you're going to say that can convince me that it wasn't worthwhile, because (A) I listened to all the pieces of gear (and other equipment in their classes) before I bought them, and (B) I felt it was worth spending my money on this stuff based on how it all sounded to me.
So participating in that thread on Usenet would likely not result in any change in either of our positions. I'll pass on a likely flame war and fruitless debate. We are where we are.
I've been in the hobby for a long time now (and used to work hi-fi retail way back in college), so you can probably imagine that, by now, I've seen, and been involved in, many debates about this. I've seen the debate, from either side, attacked from pretty much all possible angles. And when it comes to audio, there are debates aplenty. Interconnects. Power cables. DBT is/isn't effective. CD players (fancy units versus less expensive gear that seem to measure as well). CD vs. SACD. Analog vs. digital. Tweaks. Tubes vs. solid state. Amplifiers sound/don't sound different. I've seen it argued both ways by engineers and science-minded folks (we have engineers and people who make their living in science in our member base here too); and what it almost always amounts to is that very little convincing is done either way. What you usually end up with are 300-post threads with a lot of insults and vitriol -- I'll pass, thank you.
I've read your arguments, and the arguments of those who feel the same as you over the years, yet I continue to listen to relatively expensive headphone amps, relatively expensive headphones, relatively expensive interconnects, SACD, expensive headphone cables, all hooked up to power conditioners through not-very-inexpensive power cables. And there's little you're going to say that can convince me that it wasn't worthwhile, because (A) I listened to all the pieces of gear (and other equipment in their classes) before I bought them, and (B) I felt it was worth spending my money on this stuff based on how it all sounded to me.
So participating in that thread on Usenet would likely not result in any change in either of our positions. I'll pass on a likely flame war and fruitless debate. We are where we are.