Dec 31, 2008 at 6:09 PM Post #6,556 of 27,292
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Fixed. Thanks.


Wow, that was fast
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Dec 31, 2008 at 9:06 PM Post #6,558 of 27,292
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Wait, you all use orthos and use headpone sockets? I run all mine straight from the speaker outs. Nothing like 110WPC to make them sing
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is that because your sockets have no cojones ?
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BUT seriously, that is not a bad idea for some of these orthos.

I had a quick take on m equipment, my radio is 50 years old, my amp is the youngest at 26 years old, my former amp was over 60 (
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) , even my cdp uses a walker. ( obviously commercial gear - the rest is all DIY )

I do think we should add to F2D's wiki vintage amp section. There are quite a few old gems and some new too that offer great headphone performance without the need for dedicated amps.

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Dec 31, 2008 at 9:41 PM Post #6,559 of 27,292
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Wow, that was fast
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Hey. He's goooooood.

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Wait, you all use orthos and use headpone sockets? I run all mine straight from the speaker outs. Nothing like 110WPC to make them sing
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True. To reduce the variables involved in heaphone listening, use a coupler and run out of the speaker outs. But some gear does have cojones in the headphone jack. It's just that you can't predict which are cojonal and which are flaccid.
 
Dec 31, 2008 at 9:44 PM Post #6,560 of 27,292
Ok, this was totally unexpected and out of the blue. I was getting ready to take wifey off to the doctor and she mentioned that she heard a knock at the door earlier which is usually a sign something has been dropped off. I look out the door and sitting there was a parcel. I quickly rip it open and lo and behold, there was a new shiny set of T50RPs!!

Holy crap that was quick. I quickly grab my mini PC and we head out. I'm now sitting in a cafe, sipping coffee listening to the new RPs, complete with new comfy pads and... wow, pretty damn nice, out of the box better than any other orthos in stock. Yeah, I like these, obviously I'm gonna screw with them but that's just what I do but really, as they come is not bad at all. Good bass, smooth mids and nice highs, not your standard old school ortho at all. In fact, not a million miles away from the Woofdale in unmodded abilities. Ladles and jellyspoons, I think we have a winner on our hands. A cheap, easily obtainable ortho that sounds nice right off the bat and I'm sure has good potential for being quite an oustanding bargain.

I need to do some proper listening in a quieter environ with better gear as a cafe from a Pocket PC is not ideal, but if it's this good now I feel it can do great things given a chance.

Thanks to Kabeer and Ludo for giving me the opportunity to experience what I feel will be the hit of the season. More to follow when I get it tied up to some better gear.


Very nice balance and smooth
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Dec 31, 2008 at 10:29 PM Post #6,563 of 27,292
I just made an account and am fooling around with Wikiphonia now. I don't have too much to add, but will contribute what I can. There's a lot of good info in it already.
 
Jan 1, 2009 at 12:21 AM Post #6,565 of 27,292
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Wait, you all use orthos and use headpone sockets? I run all mine straight from the speaker outs. Nothing like 110WPC to make them sing
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BUT seriously, that is not a bad idea for some of these orthos.


I second that, it works great. I had an adapter made quite a while back that converts twin XLR to spade lugs (all my phones are balanced).

The Chocolate Donuts really benefited from this if you didn't have a really strong headphone amp like the Beta22.

I'm definitely going to get a pair of the T50 RPs, but for now I'm basking in the warmth of my new K1000. Not Ortho, but damn nice just the same.
 
Jan 1, 2009 at 12:46 AM Post #6,566 of 27,292
I let my T50RPs run in most of the night and part of today. They are a little tubby sounding right now but very smooth. The driver probably WILL benefit from some damping if they continue to sound like they do currently. However, the amp really makes a difference. My Extreme seems to control the bass very well and has enough brightness to make the 50 sound basically neutral. While my SOHA/ JISBOS is a little to dark sounding and the bass is not as well controlled. The Millet SS drives the T50 very well too. In my setup I seem to need both high gain and lots of power to get the best out of the T50.

The comfort is a real plus.
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Jan 1, 2009 at 1:34 AM Post #6,567 of 27,292
I listened a bit more to the HOK, and it's got a bit of that closed-in-a-box felling now. I'm not sure what to do about that. It wasn't like that without the new pads, I think.... Maybe the bit of low bass has to be traded for something else? But then again, a closed-in feeling fits a can from behind the iron curtain...

So far, the Sennheiser 580 beats both the HOK and the Grundig in every way, except that the 580 lacks that something for some (quite a few) of what's on my computer and on Spotify / Tunerec. I still don't know what it is, and my rock band musician friend thinks that the 580 is simply better, period, from listening to some Daft Punk. His theory was that bass should always be sacrified for mids / highs because bass is easily forgotten... It doesn't change my opinion though, but maybe some more alternatives could be explored.

It could be that a weatherstrip pad is up next, if I can find that stuff here.

Or perhaps, I just need one of these new T50RP fostexes that are less expensive than the annoying ebay deals....

Happy new year, also!
 
Jan 1, 2009 at 2:16 AM Post #6,568 of 27,292
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Thanks to Kabeer and Ludo for giving me the opportunity to experience what I feel will be the hit of the season. More to follow when I get it tied up to some better gear.


Very nice balance and smooth
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Glad to see it turned out to be a good 'un
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Jan 1, 2009 at 2:53 AM Post #6,569 of 27,292
Well, you know that bit where I said I'd have a good listen before doing the dirty on them?

I lied
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hehe

Bitumen lining the cups to kill that plastic resonance. Nice and dead now.

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Felt pad just sat in the cup to soak up random waves as they float about.

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Reflex dot that won't do much given the cup design which has one build into the rear of the cup seen in the previous pics.

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Filling the baffle plate braces with epoxy putty to mass damp it a bit and add some strength. Plastered liquid nails over that.

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Bass is a little less now but tighter and considerably less tubby and boxy. It'll never be a big hairy bass monster as the driver is pretty tiny but what is there is nice, goes pretty deep and sounds good. It still doesn't have any major flaws anywhere and is a smooth sound with a nicely neutral top end. Efficiency is fairly good too.

I didn't want to get too extreme on it's ass this early into the relationship, time will tell how well we mesh, for now she's very pleasing indeed
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Jan 1, 2009 at 3:16 AM Post #6,570 of 27,292
Yikes, I just turned up the EQ +10db @ 32Hz
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Well, it can certainly take a bass pummeling when asked, don't think I'll do that again, it's a little disconcerting feeling your ears flapping about like that in the cups!

Erm, yeah...
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Killa!

Hmm, easing up a little now. Bass going deeper and stronger. Very clear audio picture, nice separation, very clean sounding, good snap and better soundstage than many open phones and not overly in your head. Easiest mod to sweetness evar.
 

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