hmm, might be an idea to stick with car analogies

^ i've not compared them directly yet but i'm thinking that the utopia's midrange is more forward and its treble more prominent. the caldera seems to have a more spacious and relaxed presentation. it should make for an interesting comparison when i get around to it.

... you are off-topic. you should take this discussion to the sound science forum rather than persist with it here and derail the thread.

the caldera is such an enjoyable listen while possessing the requisite technical chops of a high-end headphone. and it does this in an unforced way. i intend to compare it to my og utopia in future but i have no desire to listen to another headphone at the moment.

^ sound science is the appropriate forum if you want to continue this discussion

^ oh no! the person you are replying to left this thread to argue erroneously, er, endlessly over in the sound science forum. let's not tempt fate, please. PS have you spent any quality time with the caldera? asking for a friend.

^ planar magnetic driver 'crinkling' is a thing. while it may be disconcerting, i don't think that it's serious. if it continues to bother you then i suggest that you contact ZMF for advice/reassurance.

i think it's a little early to be making that call

^ which part of his post is true? i'm failing to see how the content of his post relates to yours. what am i missing here?

i'm stating the bleeding obvious here but no one else's subjective impressions are a substitute for hearing a headphone for yourself. that's been my experience anyway.

^ i also enjoy his reviews. his first caldera review piqued my interest in it.

^ lol! i think that i might be one of those people. now i need to find my tribe.

for the love of god! please don't encourage this person to respond.

as you have acknowledged that your posts are off-topic, i (and others, I suspect) would appreciate you modifying your posting style accordingly. alternatively, you could start your own thread or a blog (if you haven't already).

with respect, i don't see what your posts have to do with the thread topic

i'm not a metallurgist but i think that the difference between rust and tarnish is more than just a matter of 'semantics and accepted english usage'. rust primarily affects iron and its alloys such as steel.

silver doesn't rust so you were wrong about that in your post. it does tarnish tho. how badly it tarnishes and why is beside the point.

silver doesn't rust but it does tarnish

very nice. maybe just a little fancy:

none from me. you'll know what it's like soon enough.

the utopia's driver is solid beryllium - not vapor deposited. i've little doubt that the rest of your post is as ill-informed.

i'm warming to the new design

^ the box looks identical to mine - circa 2017

^ i don't read the comments section, i just watch the reviews. can we move on from this? i'm looking forward to seeing more impressions being posted here from tungsten owners.