They absolutely scale spectacularly. The Bokeh on the Woo Tube Mini is such a stunning pair.

Bluesound Node -> SMSL D400EX -> Woo WA22 -> Hart Modular -> Focal Clear OG

I mean, as soon as I can grab a Susvara for $2500 I'm gonna get it.

It was a joke lol should’ve added /s

I listened to the Susvara off of the Lina stack at CanJam and it still did nothing for me. Much prefer the Caldera, Utopia, LCD5.

Damn is that the new Susvara?

exactly, a fool is easily parted with their money

No, I enjoy the Sundara, which are the perfect price for a HFM.

I mean, same with Kia. Which was my comparison earlier.

I’d pay $8K for a ZMF. This is BS because it’s normalizing crap build quality.

You’re missing the point. It may sound amazing, but the headphone is not worth the cost because of the shoddy Hifiman quality.

Did I say they didn’t sound good? They are poorly made with no resale value but they sound good.

I’m confused, are you trashing Focal or Hifiman? Focal has their own set of problems that they have fixed, and don’t depreciate much.

He’s clearly being facetious but yes, the Susvara has very bad resale value.

Yup, measurements are a nice way to make an initial judgment

It is, I'm more or less making a statement about how horrible the Susvara are, and Hifiman as a whole. They're the Kia of the headphone industry. If you pretend that you're high end for long enough, maybe everyone will finally believe you. They're poorly made junk.

Electrostatic speakers (MartinLogan for example) have exposed membranes, I have dogs that shed like crazy, and a hair has never punctured the membrane lol. These are stupid, but not for that reason.

and it was dumb then, dumb now

"it's like a veil was lifted!"

Spectacular choice!

Imagine paying $8K for a Hifiman...yikes

See that's my problem, if I need all of that, I'll just use my FiiO amp...

I think overall sound signature, they are incredibly similar, but the Clear has more punch and slam. The 800S pulls ahead in soundstage, listening to orchestra on the 800S is the equivalent of being there.

I did! Listening to an album drains it so quickly. I can't really do more than 64 because even with a DDHifi cable it clips.