It makes you wonder if they really spent any quality time wearing the thing during the design process.

Honestly, if the P7W had a more comfortable headband it would be the perfect set of Bluetooth headphones. I much prefer the leather padding to the fabric Apple has chosen. Fabric + skin/hair oils = gross. I wish B&W had gone wider & flatter with the headband. The wedge-like shape they used feels...

I’m glad you posted this as I’d been thinking about selling my P7W and getting the APM. I love the sound and build quality of the P7W but I hate the pressure on the top of my skull. It’s just so uncomfortable after a short period of time. I don’t like the extensive use of fabric on the APM but...

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They rarely roll out a product that hasn't been over-analyzed and over-tested over an extended period of time by a pack of tech fanatics. Compare that approach to many consumer electronics companies who just throw half-baked products at the market to see what sticks.

I'm not concerned that someone knows I am wearing Apple headphones. I just think the bare aluminum at that size looks odd. Maybe more like cheap hearing protection from Home Depot than a high-grade audio headphone. Or a white label Chinese product on Amazon sold under two dozen unintelligible...

The lack of visible branding on these is an odd choice, especially for Apple. The large expanse of bare aluminum on the cups just looks odd. A small Apple logo would help break up the space.

I refuse to consider any plastic-bodied over-ear headphone anything but low-end. Years ago I bought a pair of plastic Sony Playstation headphones that began to disintegrate almost immediately. In the end they were held together with zip ties before I tossed them in disgust. I would never drop...

Honestly I wish Apple would develop an A/V receiver, something ultra-simple, that "just works," with Apple TV built-in and a minimum of useless other features. I hate the current market of not enough (soundbar systems) and too much (almost any A/V receiver sold today).

All I want in life is my P7 Wireless sound without the skull-torturing headband, plus AirPods Pro ease-of-pairing. If the Apple cans fit the bill I am totally in (after a year or two when the price comes down). :smiley:

So my question is, based on the persistent theme around B&W headphones year after year, is why is the company so inept at designing for comfort? I imagine their field testing for ergonomics goes something like this: “So how do they feel, Steve?” “Meh, they kinda hurt my...” “Stop right there...

Yeah, I said replace the P7W headband with the PX7 headband, not the PX headband.

I just can't get into those cloth-covered cups. Dust magnets, lint magnets, skin/hair oil magnets. P7W still superior. Now, if someone would figure out how to swap the torturous P7W headband with the PX7 (which I assume is more comfortable, because how could it not be?) I would be truly satisfied.

For any PX7 owners who have also owned the P7W, how would you compare the sound of the two? I love the sound of my P7W. A satisfying amount of bass without being overpowering. If not for the lack of comfort I would absolutely love them.

Either that or a Ferengi. Definitely a case of style over function.