Yeah, the pads on the 770s have always been different, and have always been stiffer. They also have less girth where the padding is. The 770's pads are part no. EDT-770V. They're designed for closed-back headphones and using them on the DT880 or DT990 pretty much ruins the sound. Similarly...

  Have you heard back from Beyerdynamic? There have been several people commenting on the stiffer, black velours on recent models like the all-black DT880 and all-black DT990. I have the all-black DT990 and the pads do seem stiffer than usual.   Please let us know what Beyerdynamic says, I...

  Same here. Is this what you guys are talking about? http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/over-ear

  Yeah, the DT990 I recently purchased did have security stickers on either side of the box but they're the only Beyers I've seen that had those. Mine are the all-black limited edition version and the pads do seem a bit stiffer than regular Beyer velours. AFAIK the pads are made by hand so its...

  The bass definitely improves a ton with amping. Just the other night my roommate and I were listening on our smartphones with the DT880 & the AKG K712 and it reminded me just how big a difference amping makes for the DT880. The AKG K712 sounds essentially the same without one, it just doesn't...

  None of my DT770/DT880/DT990 have ever come with a serial number sticker on the headphones themselves, and I've purchased several of them. Its also normal to not have security seals on the box itself. They do have a serial number sticker on the box, at least all but my DT 880 Pro do.

Nice find @FuzzyD   DT880 are one of the best values in headphones if not *the* best. And that's a good price. I like the look of the all black limited edition. Wish it came in 600 ohm.   Enjoy! Let us know what you think.

  Even at $170 its a good value IMO but yeah, at $130 or $140 its a steal.   Whether a DAC or an amp would have a larger positive impact is hard to say. If the audio output on your computer is poor then a DAC might be a big improvement. Otherwise an amp would probably be a bigger improvement...

  I haven't heard those, no. I've heard *of* them. Someone else in this thread might have.

  I imagine either one of those would be better than nothing and you could always upgrade to a more powerful amp in the future.

  Others can chime in as well but in my experience, no. All of the Beyer DT 770/880/990 struggle to get loud enough without an amp. Even the 32 ohm DT880, the lowest impedance of all of them, struggles. I bought a set for my brother who was plugging them directly into a relatively recent...

    Here you go:   http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary   And here's the glossary for equipment/technical terms:   http://www.head-fi.org/a/glossary-of-terms

In case anyone is curious-- the Beyerdynamic A20 works very well with the 600 ohm Beyers. There is definitely no lack of volume here. With my very quietest tracks (very old recordings etc) I have to turn it up to about 3 o'clock to get it super loud but with typical tracks I stay well under the...

  Nope, I still haven't heard any of the tesla Beyers. Well, except for the DT1350. I *think* those are teslas but they're a totally different kind of headphone. I have a ton of experience with the earlier Beyers (DT770, DT880, DT990). Do you feel like these new teslas are a big improvement...

  Yeah that's pretty much what I've heard too, about the TH-610 as well as the various Massdrop TH-X00 variations. That's a shame. I've never been able to get that amazing soundstage out of my mind. One of these days I'm going to have to just bite the bullet and get a TH-900.   Do you know if...