Got these a few years ago after hearing about them here on Head-Fi and listening to them on a couple of occasions. They are unfortunately not such a bargain here in Germany as they seem to be in USA - I paid 175 Euro for mine. They need break-in for both sound and comfort, and after 2-3 years I still find them a bit tight to wear but at least they´re not falling off. They don´t work at all with my amps - the sound becomes too hot and it´s a relief to take them off. Where they shine is with "lesser" sources, I plug them into my iPod or especially...