The issue with "upgrading" is trying to sell the item being replaced. In today's economy with many people on a tight budget that can be very difficult.
What is DS?
Schiit Yggdrasil Impressions thread
- Thread starter IndieGradoFan
- Start date
The issue with "upgrading" is trying to sell the item being replaced. In today's economy with many people on a tight budget that can be very difficult.
What is DS?
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2012
- Posts
- 3,469
- Likes
- 974
Probably Delta Sigma vs R2R ladder DAC (which is what yggy is)?
A little light reading for you if you are interested:
Discrete R2R dac versus a sigma delta dac?
Discrete R2R (Resistor-to-Resistor) DACs and Sigma-Delta DACs are two different technologies used in digital-to-analog converters, each with its own set of advantages and disadvantages. Here are the advantages of a discrete R2R DAC compared to a Sigma-Delta DAC:
Simplicity and Linearity
- R2R DACs: Discrete R2R DACs have a simple architecture consisting of resistors arranged in a ladder network. This simplicity often results in excellent linearity, meaning they can accurately reproduce the input signal without introducing significant distortion.
- Sigma-Delta DACs: Sigma-Delta DACs use complex algorithms and feedback loops to achieve high resolution, but they are inherently non-linear. The conversion process involves oversampling and noise shaping, which can introduce nonlinearities, especially at lower bit depths.
Transparency and Sound Quality
- R2R DACs: Due to their linearity, R2R DACs are prized in high-end audio applications for their transparency and ability to preserve the original signal’s integrity. Audiophiles often prefer R2R DACs for their natural and musical sound reproduction.
- Sigma-Delta DACs: Sigma-Delta DACs are commonly used in consumer electronics due to their cost-effectiveness and ability to achieve high resolution. While they provide good performance for most applications, some audiophiles find their sound to be less natural or warm compared to R2R DACs.
Speed and Oversampling
- R2R DACs: R2R DACs are inherently fast and do not require extensive oversampling. They can directly convert the input signal into an analog output without the need for complex algorithms, making them suitable for applications where real-time processing is crucial.
- Sigma-Delta DACs: Sigma-Delta DACs often employ oversampling techniques to achieve high resolution. While oversampling improves resolution, it can introduce latency, making them less suitable for applications requiring real-time processing.
Durability and Stability
- R2R DACs: Discrete R2R DACs are constructed using individual resistors, which can provide stability and durability over time. They are less susceptible to temperature variations and external factors that might affect their performance.
- Sigma-Delta DACs: Sigma-Delta DACs, especially those integrated into microchips, can be sensitive to environmental conditions. They might require additional measures to maintain stability, especially in critical applications where consistent performance is essential.
Last edited:
Slackaveli
Headphoneus Supremus
Schiit gear does tend to resell but i hear you. i always have a bit of anxiety about that but it's also not usually justified anxiety. For instance i almost didnt buy Yggy A2 bc that'd mean id have to sell Yggy A1 and she's heavy and all that. Sold it that same day lol; didnt last the day!
Last I checked Bifrost 2 was going for over $400 on Ebay but I admittedly don't know every detail about Bifrost.
Slackaveli
Headphoneus Supremus
correct.
A form of R2R for sure. Multibit.
I recently bought a Bifrost 2 OG locally for $450, and that seems to be about the going rate these days, 2/64 version around $600-650.
Shouldn't be that hard to sell. Yggy is worth it for sound improvements over the Bifrost 2. I have both right now and have had 2 other Bifrost 2/64 units in the past.
I'm so darn curious about how A2 sounds compared to my A1 though...
Shouldn't be that hard to sell. Yggy is worth it for sound improvements over the Bifrost 2. I have both right now and have had 2 other Bifrost 2/64 units in the past.
I'm so darn curious about how A2 sounds compared to my A1 though...
Delta Sigma DACs
Slackaveli
Headphoneus Supremus
maddening isnt it lol?
They're are VERY similar. There's just a bit more plankton, a bit more richness an a bit more low end emphasis, just a bit. But also a bit less clarity and layering. So if you use speaker a lot and if you listen to a lot of orchestra type music A1 is preffered even. But I listen to rock and rap and EDM and only really use Yggy for headphones and in that case the A2 is a bit better. Not to an earth shattering degree or anything. Not as big of a jump as coming from Bifrost to GS2 was. It's a baby step from Gumby MB to A1 to A2.
This is Marv's chart from SBAF which is pretty accurate to my ear.
Last edited:
Melting735
100+ Head-Fier
I just purchased the OG from canuckaudiomart. Hard to find one in Canada. 
Thanks for buying before I gave inI just purchased the OG from canuckaudiomart. Hard to find one in Canada.
Is this your second Yggy OG then?
I just purchased the OG from canuckaudiomart. Hard to find one in Canada.
The one I mentioned about?
Slackaveli
Headphoneus Supremus
Congratulations, Baw.I just purchased the OG from canuckaudiomart. Hard to find one in Canada.
Melting735
100+ Head-Fier
Third if not counting a LIM. Going back and forth, but eventually came backThanks for buying before I gave in
Is this your second Yggy OG then?
Yes, the one you linked
No worries. I don't think I can justify the cost right now anyways.
Users who are viewing this thread
