LCD-X and XC Update
May 7, 2024 at 12:22 PM Post #2,731 of 2,744
LCD-X and LCD-XC are very peculiar.
I think both can compete against LCD-5 and Utopia (Stellia for sure), sound quality is not far off.
Tuning, is not that good on either, I must admit, but resolution, low distortion and ease of drivability are way above norm.
I just EQ them, that's my only complaint.
But then again, we all have our opinions.

Ah, your talking about them EQ-ed.
 
May 7, 2024 at 1:18 PM Post #2,732 of 2,744
LCD-X and LCD-XC are very peculiar.
I think both can compete against LCD-5 and Utopia (Stellia for sure), sound quality is not far off.
Tuning, is not that good on either, I must admit, but resolution, low distortion and ease of drivability are way above norm.
I just EQ them, that's my only complaint.
But then again, we all have our opinions.

I own the XC, used to own the X, and own the 5. The X and XC don't compete against the 5. They're great headphones, don't get me wrong. The XC is still my favorite closedback. But, the 5 is at a whole other level, especially in resolution, imaging, and separation.
 
May 7, 2024 at 1:36 PM Post #2,733 of 2,744
I own the XC, used to own the X, and own the 5. The X and XC don't compete against the 5. They're great headphones, don't get me wrong. The XC is still my favorite closedback. But, the 5 is at a whole other level, especially in resolution, imaging, and separation.
LCD-5 is really good, but is it three times better?
costs three times though!
Ah, your talking about them EQ-ed.
Yes.
EQ is necessary evil with headphones. Mild smooth EQ, does not bother me.
I don't like EQ, but , so far, all needed it. All Focal, Audeze, hifiman etc. included.
 
May 7, 2024 at 1:55 PM Post #2,734 of 2,744
LCD-5 is really good, but is it three times better?
costs three times though!

Yes.
EQ is necessary evil with headphones. Mild smooth EQ, does not bother me.
I don't like EQ, but , so far, all needed it. All Focal, Audeze, hifiman etc. included.

EQ has its place but I like to judge them by the way they sound by themselves. If they respond well to EQ, that's excellent. But comparing headphones after EQ is getting really complex
 
May 7, 2024 at 2:18 PM Post #2,735 of 2,744
LCD-5 is really good, but is it three times better?
costs three times though!

Explain how to objectively quantify my listening experience and I'll get back to you.
 
May 7, 2024 at 2:53 PM Post #2,736 of 2,744
Explain how to objectively quantify my listening experience and I'll get back to you.
If money was no object, LCD-5 would be my first choice.
But since I am not rich, LCD-XC will have to do. :gs1000smile:
I have to compromise.
 
May 7, 2024 at 3:16 PM Post #2,737 of 2,744
If money was no object, LCD-5 would be my first choice.
But since I am not rich, LCD-XC will have to do. :gs1000smile:
I have to compromise.

If I could only pick one, it would be the XC, not the 5.

Taking price out of it entirely, the XC is just much easier to drive, more comfortable, more isolating, much easier to listen to in the background, and far, far less prone to making me worry about it getting damaged in transit.
 
May 7, 2024 at 3:22 PM Post #2,738 of 2,744
As you can see in my sign.

Clear had very WOW signature. I loved it mids and overall energy. Their build quality was "bad" for me, because pads got grey after one week from my oily head.
And dont get me started on driver excursion. That was the main reason why I sold it. I had to keep eye on volume, keep eye what I listen to as I love lot of bass song, or hell even some soundtrack songs triggered the bass excursion out of "cage". I had them for 1 week, 3-6 hours per day.

Audeze LCD X are hella lot more laid back, build like a tank. Very neutral sounding. I had to EQ them, because I like more energetic sound.
I still cant understand how they did NOT disort. I got them +15db bass shelf, closed my eyes, squeeze my teeth, turn the volume up, body was shaking, yet X retained clean (really) subwoofer bass. What. This was just experiment, I listened normally them at normal volume and like 9db bass shelf to have that hefty bass, defined at normal volumes.
I had them for 3 years, 6-12 hours per day!!!
Recently sold them for IEM Monarch MK3, because I wanted some change and I couldnt had 2 different headphones because big prize (for me).

Sign says it all anyway. gg
 
May 7, 2024 at 3:42 PM Post #2,739 of 2,744
As you can see in my sign.

Clear had very WOW signature. I loved it mids and overall energy. Their build quality was "bad" for me, because pads got grey after one week from my oily head.
And dont get me started on driver excursion. That was the main reason why I sold it. I had to keep eye on volume, keep eye what I listen to as I love lot of bass song, or hell even some soundtrack songs triggered the bass excursion out of "cage". I had them for 1 week, 3-6 hours per day.

Audeze LCD X are hella lot more laid back, build like a tank. Very neutral sounding. I had to EQ them, because I like more energetic sound.
I still cant understand how they did NOT disort. I got them +15db bass shelf, closed my eyes, squeeze my teeth, turn the volume up, body was shaking, yet X retained clean (really) subwoofer bass. What. This was just experiment, I listened normally them at normal volume and like 9db bass shelf to have that hefty bass, defined at normal volumes.
I had them for 3 years, 6-12 hours per day!!!
Recently sold them for IEM Monarch MK3, because I wanted some change and I couldnt had 2 different headphones because big prize (for me).

Sign says it all anyway. gg

+15 dB bass shelf 😂
 
May 7, 2024 at 3:49 PM Post #2,740 of 2,744
If I could only pick one, it would be the XC, not the 5.

Taking price out of it entirely, the XC is just much easier to drive, more comfortable, more isolating, much easier to listen to in the background, and far, far less prone to making me worry about it getting damaged in transit.
For a closed back, the XC is fantastic, sure it needs EQ, but fantastic.
LCD-5 is open back! so not the same thing. It is lighter, and my ears won't sweat as quickly. It needs a lot less EQ, and is very smooth.
I have mentioned this before, I have done a very simple mod, that improves XC lower bass by as much as 6dB without penalty or EQ.
This makes EQing the treble with just a simple tone control, such as the one on Mojo2. Also, you could then just use a mobile phone to drive them, if you ever wanted to.
You can find it, here or there if you wish.
 
May 22, 2024 at 11:23 PM Post #2,741 of 2,744
Audeze LCD-X (2016) + Liquid Platinum:
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one of headphone audio's best combos!
 
Jun 8, 2024 at 1:14 PM Post #2,742 of 2,744
Don't know exactly where should I post this, but What is going on with Audeze (@Audeze )? Has the company below zero level quality control?

I ordered a pair of LCD-3 back in january. Brand new sealed unit, but the the adhesive surface of the pads had failed. Retailer replaced it immidiately with another LCD-3. And again, it had the same problem. The retailer had still one pair left on stock and "suprise suprise" this one also had the same issues. ****ing embarassing from a headphone that costs 2000€ and comes with a plastic card that tells IT was inspected by someone at the Audeze factory. And now the retailer is waiting for new pads or a new unit for a replacement and has been waiting for it since february but nothing happens. The retailer has done terrific job and even gave me the opportunity to take one demo unit from the stores on a loan until Audeze gets something done. This happens maybe next year?

I probably should have learned something from this experience but while waiting for the LCD-3 I decided to pull the trigger on LCD-XM4 this week. Well guess what? This one also had pads completely fallen off. And again the retailer (in this case they were also the importer of Audeze here in Finland) had second unit in stock. We opened the second box together with salesperson and we could not believe our eyes. Salespersons started laughing immidiately as we opened the case since the headphones looked like they had gone through nuclear war. They were complete mess. The salesperson made a joke that this is must be what Audeze means by hand made so that the customer has to assemble the product from scratch. And again even more embarassing from a headphone that is listed at 3500€.

So yeah big thanks to @Audeze for the joy of unboxing. Maybe some day in the distant future I will get a pair of headphones that are functional. Meanwhile I just have to look for other manufacturers and encourage you to raise the level of quality control so that after opening 5 factory sealed boxes the customer would atleast have a unit that is capable of delivering.

(And btw the picture of LCD-XM4 is from that unit I unboxed at home. Didn't take a photo from the second unit that had gone through nuclear war).
 

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Jun 10, 2024 at 1:14 PM Post #2,743 of 2,744
Don't know exactly where should I post this, but What is going on with Audeze (@Audeze )? Has the company below zero level quality control?

I ordered a pair of LCD-3 back in january. Brand new sealed unit, but the the adhesive surface of the pads had failed. Retailer replaced it immidiately with another LCD-3. And again, it had the same problem. The retailer had still one pair left on stock and "suprise suprise" this one also had the same issues. ****ing embarassing from a headphone that costs 2000€ and comes with a plastic card that tells IT was inspected by someone at the Audeze factory. And now the retailer is waiting for new pads or a new unit for a replacement and has been waiting for it since february but nothing happens. The retailer has done terrific job and even gave me the opportunity to take one demo unit from the stores on a loan until Audeze gets something done. This happens maybe next year?

I probably should have learned something from this experience but while waiting for the LCD-3 I decided to pull the trigger on LCD-XM4 this week. Well guess what? This one also had pads completely fallen off. And again the retailer (in this case they were also the importer of Audeze here in Finland) had second unit in stock. We opened the second box together with salesperson and we could not believe our eyes. Salespersons started laughing immidiately as we opened the case since the headphones looked like they had gone through nuclear war. They were complete mess. The salesperson made a joke that this is must be what Audeze means by hand made so that the customer has to assemble the product from scratch. And again even more embarassing from a headphone that is listed at 3500€.

So yeah big thanks to @Audeze for the joy of unboxing. Maybe some day in the distant future I will get a pair of headphones that are functional. Meanwhile I just have to look for other manufacturers and encourage you to raise the level of quality control so that after opening 5 factory sealed boxes the customer would atleast have a unit that is capable of delivering.

(And btw the picture of LCD-XM4 is from that unit I unboxed at home. Didn't take a photo from the second unit that had gone through nuclear war).
Please check your private messages in a few. This is a case of the pad adhesive coming off which we have since corrected and would be more than happy to get this resolved.

In the future, you can simply contact us at support@audeze.com and we'll be more than happy to assist you.
 
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Jun 10, 2024 at 2:42 PM Post #2,744 of 2,744
Please check your private messages in a few. This is a case of the pad adhesive coming off which we have since corrected and would be more than happy to get this resolved.

In the future, you can simply contact us at support@audeze.com and we'll be more than happy to assist you.
I have got an XC, and it has been great. & when I lost a screw, you were kind and quick to send me a set to London, free of charge! so thanx are in order.
If only you had used metric screws instead of US traditional grades, I could have sourced them without troubling you. :slight_smile:
 

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