[Greg121986]

Tell me, how is qobuz managed without roon. Visual interface. Thank you.

You need to use a separate app with UPnP/DLNA. Examples are BubbleUPnP, mConnect, or JPlay. I used JPlay for a while and it was worth it, but the cost is very high. After one year with JPlay I decided to just use Roon because I want to integrate my large local library and Qobuz into the same app. Roon is just the best option for that.

If I only wanted to UPnP stream Qobuz to the Holo Red, I would go back to JPlay.

 

[Darion]

You need to use a separate app with UPnP/DLNA. Examples are BubbleUPnP, mConnect, or JPlay. I used JPlay for a while and it was worth it, but the cost is very high. After one year with JPlay I decided to just use Roon because I want to integrate my large local library and Qobuz into the same app. Roon is just the best option for that.

If I only wanted to UPnP stream Qobuz to the Holo Red, I would go back to JPlay.

Have you compared the sound with roon and jplay? Unfortunately, roon spoils the sound of hqplayer (personal experience).
Whether there was a difference in sound quality is naturally your subjective opinion.

 

[Greg121986]

I do not worry about sound between software, so I do not concern myself whether there was a difference or not. UPnP/DLNA is just sending a web URL to the player device, so it is not worth worrying about whether one software will sound different compared to another. The benefit between different UPnP/DLNA software versions is just the user experience. JPlay gave me a better user experience. I use HQPlayer with my Holo Spring 3 KTE because its upsampling is better, but I send it digital files with Roon because the user experience of Roon is better. I do not believe the software alone will make a useful difference. The Holo Red alone is the optimized device that I want to serve digital music to my DAC, so that is where the benefit is for digital audio.

 

[CFGamescape]

From a usability perspective, how easy is the Holo Red to implement compared to say, an EverSolo DMP-A6?

I use Roon (no HQPlayer). There's a lot of stuff in this thread that I don't understand and it seems rather daunting to figure out the Red. I want something I can put into my chain (replacing my DDC) to use as a DDC and streamer (understanding that the Red can only do one or the other at one time).

I want to take advantage of I2S into my DAC and want the benefits of a streamer, but the flexibility to also get audio from my PC. Seems the Red is the only option (unless someone can suggest some alternatives.

I plan to get a Wandla soon, FWIW.

 

[flipper203]

you can either plug it and play, with Holo red OS, and it works straight with roon, or play with other OS like Roopie XL or Gentooplayer but it's quite easy to make it work.

 

[mantraone]

From a usability perspective, how easy is the Holo Red to implement compared to say, an EverSolo DMP-A6?

I use Roon (no HQPlayer). There's a lot of stuff in this thread that I don't understand and it seems rather daunting to figure out the Red. I want something I can put into my chain (replacing my DDC) to use as a DDC and streamer (understanding that the Red can only do one or the other at one time).

I want to take advantage of I2S into my DAC and want the benefits of a streamer, but the flexibility to also get audio from my PC. Seems the Red is the only option (unless someone can suggest some alternatives.

I plan to get a Wandla soon, FWIW.

I moved from U18 to Holo Red with the Holo Spring 3 KTE and is 2 steps better in my taste, If you like use the R26 with Holo Red via I2s, check the pinout I don't think it works properli with DSD.... so...

 

[jcn3]

From a usability perspective, how easy is the Holo Red to implement compared to say, an EverSolo DMP-A6?

I use Roon (no HQPlayer). There's a lot of stuff in this thread that I don't understand and it seems rather daunting to figure out the Red. I want something I can put into my chain (replacing my DDC) to use as a DDC and streamer (understanding that the Red can only do one or the other at one time).

I want to take advantage of I2S into my DAC and want the benefits of a streamer, but the flexibility to also get audio from my PC. Seems the Red is the only option (unless someone can suggest some alternatives.

I plan to get a Wandla soon, FWIW.

it's very easy to set-up the holo audio red in roon -- plug an ethernet cable into the red; open the red web page and select roon (plus a couple of roon options); go into roon and enable the holo audio red. that's all there is to it.

 

[TChan]

I do not worry about sound between software, so I do not concern myself whether there was a difference or not. UPnP/DLNA is just sending a web URL to the player device, so it is not worth worrying about whether one software will sound different compared to another. The benefit between different UPnP/DLNA software versions is just the user experience. JPlay gave me a better user experience. I use HQPlayer with my Holo Spring 3 KTE because its upsampling is better, but I send it digital files with Roon because the user experience of Roon is better. I do not believe the software alone will make a useful difference. The Holo Red alone is the optimized device that I want to serve digital music to my DAC, so that is where the benefit is for digital audio.

Hi,
UPnP/DLNA is sending a web URL to the player device, so there should have no sound different about whether one software compared to another.
Theoretically it is right and you are right. But actually, I hear the difference. Don't know why
My friends and I also tried Mconnect on iphone, on ipad and on Macbook with same player device. They all sound different ! OMG

 

[Jake2]

Hi,
UPnP/DLNA is sending a web URL to the player device, so there should have no sound different about whether one software compared to another.
Theoretically it is right and you are right. But actually, I hear the difference. Don't know why
My friends and I also tried Mconnect on iphone, on ipad and on Macbook with same player device. They all sound different ! OMG

Suspect it depends a bit on one’s system, but I found the same with Bubble, Jplay and Roon/HQP (latter best). I also found Roon sounds better with my iPad Air 5th gen rather than a Samsung phone running Roon remote. After observing this I then read about some guys on another forum coincidentally doing a test of a bunch of phones and tablets as Roon Remote devices on a high end system and finding the same thing.. subtle differences, but iPad Air 5th gen best.

Spooky action at a distance. Pretty easy to compare and hear in my system. Give it a go.

 

[TChan]

That is what Jplay said about the issue. I prefer Jplay app and it sound better in my system.

 

[spacecase25]

That is what Jplay said about the issue. I prefer Jplay app and it sound better in my system.

Just tweak squeezelite to use giant buffers and save your money there won't be any network traffic to "manage" during playback.

I can click play, unplug the network, and the entire track will continue to play though.

 

[Darion]

Hi all.

Help me understand a little about the scheme that I can organize with may, red, hqplayer, roon and other equipment.

I have a powerful PC (13700/4090), I turn it on only when necessary. I have hqplayer on it.
All other audio equipment is located in another part of the room.

In order for me to connect hqplayer (PC) to Red, I plan to use an Intel Nuc i5/i7 ) running 24/7. On it I install NAA + Roon server.

And this is the scheme.
PC hqplayer > network > Nuc (NAA + Roon) > usb > Red (network) > usb > May

I have all these devices on the same local network.

If I want to run Roon (nuc) > hqplayer (PC) > Red > May, I turn on my powerful PC and receive a signal from it in Red.

If I want to listen without hqplayer, then Roon (Nuc) > Qobuz/Tidal > Red > May.

Am I wrong anywhere? In this scheme, do I need to connect to Red lan (network), or only via USB (DDC mode)? Or am I complicating everything and it can be organized simpler. The conditions are simple: I listen to Red sometimes through hqplayer, and sometimes without it.

 

[jcn3]

Hi all.

Help me understand a little about the scheme that I can organize with may, red, hqplayer, roon and other equipment.

I have a powerful PC (13700/4090), I turn it on only when necessary. I have hqplayer on it.
All other audio equipment is located in another part of the room.

In order for me to connect hqplayer (PC) to Red, I plan to use an Intel Nuc i5/i7 ) running 24/7. On it I install NAA + Roon server.

And this is the scheme.
PC hqplayer > network > Nuc (NAA + Roon) > usb > Red (network) > usb > May

I have all these devices on the same local network.

If I want to run Roon (nuc) > hqplayer (PC) > Red > May, I turn on my powerful PC and receive a signal from it in Red.

If I want to listen without hqplayer, then Roon (Nuc) > Qobuz/Tidal > Red > May.

Am I wrong anywhere? In this scheme, do I need to connect to Red lan (network), or only via USB (DDC mode)? Or am I complicating everything and it can be organized simpler. The conditions are simple: I listen to Red sometimes through hqplayer, and sometimes without it.

i think you're making it too complicated. first thing to understand is that the NAA runs on the red -- no other computer needs to have NAA on it.

in my opinion, you should put hqplayer and roon on your powerful pc and just let it run all of the time -- you want qobuz and tidal routed through hqplayer too!! i doubt it uses too much electricity at idle. so the chain would be roon/hqplayer (pc) > naa (red) > may

an alternative is to keep hqplayer on your powerful pc and put roon server on another pc. i don't see why you would want to do this if your intention is to listen to all music via hqplayer (which you should if you have it). the chain here would be roon (nuc) > hqplayer (pc) > naa (red) > may

 

[Burkhardt]

The good thing with the Red: You can use it for multiple services at once.
For you (and also I do it):
(i) as NAA client: Roon --> HQPlayer --> RED with output 1 (for example USB to May)
(ii) as Roon endpoint: Roon --> RED with output 2 (for example I2S to May).

In the second case, the Red will shown with Red OS as Roon Ready.

 

[Darion]

I plan to listen to tidal/qobuz both with and without hqplayer.

That's why nuc added it.

This means I only need to install the Roon server on the Nuc and that’s it.

My main PC is quite noisy, I don’t always turn it on, especially in the evening when I want silence.
And sometimes they play on it, and the games take up all the resources.