Audeze CRBN Interview, Review, Measurements
Aug 17, 2023 at 8:02 PM Post #1,846 of 1,910
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Introduction​

Today we are taking a look at a very interesting headphone from Audeze. Now, the immediate assumption is that if a headphone is an Audeze, it’s a Planar Magnetic. In this case, however, The CRBN is an electrostatic pair of headphones, Audezes first foray into this product category. The CRBN, and more specifically their driver technology, is slightly different from traditional electrostatic headphones and is derived from a driver that Audeze made for use in MRI machines. This meant that no metal could be used within the driver’s makeup. Audeze has instead used carbon nanotubes throughout the driver (to provide conductivity as far as I understand) and as such, this is where the name CRBN comes from. Overall, whilst it’s a very neat concept, I’m more concerned about how an individual pair of headphones sounds, vs. being worried about the technologies used to create it. With that being said, I give Audeze a ton of credit for continuing to try and improve and innovate, and coming up with creative solutions for headphones.

Past History vs. Now​

Now, I have a bit of a history with the CRBN itself. Both positive and negative. I’d recommend reading through the entire review, as the CRBN has seen a change over its lifetime, and this directly impacted my overall opinions about the product. I originally purchased a pair of CRBN a few months after their initial release, and they were delivered a few months later. That first pair was entirely broken, but no worries, headphones.com swapped it out for another unit they had in stock, which was great. This pair was entirely functional and what was to be expected from a CRBN at that point in time. The problem was that…..it wasn’t really usable in an overall sense, at least not easily or as you would expect, even from a typical electrostatic headphone. Audeze made a statement that the drivers were tensioned slightly more loosely than other electrostatic headphones in order to provide a more full and robust bass response. The CRBN did have a slightly more robust low end, but in my opinion, it wasn’t that much more than neutral, and the trade-offs in terms of usability of the headphone were not worth the payoff in terms of low end.

The main problem was that due to the looser driver tension, the drivers would stick to the stators when listened to at a medium-high volume level or above, and distort. Now, due to the way the driver is made with the carbon nanotubes, no damage will occur from it sticking to the stators, but it will directly impact the sound and distort. Not good. In addition to that, any air pressure change inside the extremely well-sealed cups would cause the CRBN drivers to stick to the stators, and again distort. Again, due to the extremely good seal the CRBN pads provide, even slight head movements, could cause this to happen. I usually do my concentrated listening lying in bed at night, and any small movement of the headphones against the pillow would cause a loud driver flex noise, usually a loud cracking type of noise, and the driver would stick to the stators. Each and every time the driver of an electrostatic headphones sticks to the stators, you have to unplug the headphones, short the pins on your thumb or similar to de-charge the diaphragms and then plug them back in to go back to listening. With the CRBN in its original form, this was happening every couple of minutes or so. It was incredibly frustrating. Audeze has great customer support, but as the headphones were functioning within their expected performance at that point in time I ended up selling them to someone who could make better use of them, as they might listening differently than I do.

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Over time, there were many similar reports to mine of people struggling with the same issues on various headphone forums, head-fi in particular. Around April of 2022, some rumours began circulating, that Audeze had made some changes to the CRBN and how their drivers perform. I was never able to receive direct confirmation from Audeze whether this had happened or not beyond a statement saying they had “streamlined the CRBN driver production.” Still, there were enough reports of it on Head-Fi, and users reporting that they had sent their headphones in to Audeze to be looked at, and received them back entirely absent of all the diaphragm sticking issues they had before, to make me curious. I ended up purchasing a pair of CRBNs that were a post-April 2022 manufacture date, to see if there was any validity to the claims of changes to the manufacturing of diagrams. My best guess is that slightly increased the tension of the diaphragm to avoid the issues of the early models.

Thankfully, the more recent pair of CRBNs had next to no issues. I managed to get the drivers to stick two times, once was with a fairly substantial bass boost at higher volumes, and another was due to a random head movement that cause the seal to break. Overall, the CRBN was now an entirely usable functional electrostatic headphone, it acted as my other electrostats did, and had no real issues in terms of overall usability. Audeze now seems to have companies list the CRBN as being the “2023 update.” Someone on head-fi confirmed that this was in reference to the driver changes that appear to have been made around April 2022. Again, I’m not operating off of direct knowledge here, just best-guess dates based on others’ experiences and interactions with Audeze. Overall, I would have no hesitation recommending someone try the CRBN now, with regards to production quality and overall usability of the drivers. Also, I know that if you do have an old model, made near the beginning of their production, if you send it in to Audeze they will update it to the most recent specifications. For anyone out there reading this, if you have a pair of early CRBN, and are struggling with this issue, I would highly recommend sending it in to Audeze. The update made them much more pleasurable to use.

Now, with all that backstory and information out of the way, the real question is how does the CRBN sound?

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Tuning​

The bass of the CRBN is certainly a slight improvement over some electrostatic headphones. In particular, the SR-009 comes to mind. Much more physicality to it, and a slight increase in terms of level. Still, I don’t want to give the impression the CRBN is a bass monster, because it isn’t. I always ran the CRBN with a 3db low shelve, as I always prefer a more robust bass response over the more neutral response from most electrostatic or planar magnetics. In some ways, the CRBN makes me think of planar magnetic bass, more than electrostatic bass. It is quick, fairly dynamic and hard-hitting, though not as much as something like the AB1266 from Abyss, or the HE6 from Hifiman. I think that part of the reason the CRBNs bass is as well done as it is due to the incredible seal achieved with the CRBNs pads. They are without a doubt the best sealing electrostatics I have experienced, and this might contribute to that real physical feeling from the low end.

The mids of the carbon are hit-and-miss for me. In the low and middle midrange, I’d say that the CRBN are pretty much dead on neutral. No real warmth in the low mids, and definitely no suck out in the middle. My issue is with the upper mids of the CRBN, and it is my overall biggest gripe with their stock tuning. The 3khz peak. It is way too forward for me personally. Gives everything a shout and bite to it that I just can’t get on with. Some people enjoy this forward nature in this area, but for me, it just makes things tough to listen to. Thankfully, EQ resolved the issue entirely for me and took the CRBN from a headphone I couldn’t really enjoy, to one that had a ton of good things going for it. I would highly recommend trying the CRBN prior to purchasing them if you can, and if not, be open to giving EQ’ing them a try. It made all the difference for me.

The highs of the carbon are what I would consider very slightly less than neutral. Not enough to consider them a dark headphone, but they are not bright or strident headphones. Again, I ended up boosting the highs entirely with a high shelve by about 2 dB, and that brought them into my personal preference range very nicely. In some ways, the highs in their stock tuning remind me of the HD600/650. If you tend to prefer a bit more air and sparkle from your headphones, I would again recommend trying the CRBN prior to purchase or be open to trying out EQ. Again, this was an area that after a little tweaking via EQ, took the CRBN from a bit of a “not for me” to a “this is actually really, really good” headphone.

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Technical Performance​

In terms of technical performance, the CRBN is clearly high-end. I don’t think they reach the sonic heights that the Stax X9000 and Hifiman Shangri-la Sr. reach, but comparing them to other headphones in their price range, I think they stack up well. Overall detail levels remind me of the LCD-4 (I have not heard the LCD-5 yet) and the CRBN always seemed to do better with the “macro” than the “micro” both in terms of detail and dynamics. Again, this sort of reminds me of the characteristics of some planar magnetic headphones and contributes to my feeling that the CRBN is the most planar magnetic sounding electrostatic headphone on the market. The soundstage of the CRBN is very tall, perhaps due to the driver shape, and what I would describe as very slightly wide. It is not a large open soundstage like the X9000 or Shangri-la, but also not a very close up and front-row type of soundstage like the Focal Utopia. The CRBN has a good amount of punch and slam to it, but I would describe it as similar to the LCD-4 in this way, and not as hard and fast in terms of slam as the HE6 from Hifiman or 1266TC from Abyss.

Build Quality​

The build quality of the CRBN is next level. Really, and I don’t say this lightly, I think the CRBN is the best-built headphone I’ve come across so far. It just exudes class and quality. It feels incredibly solid and well put together, the pads are deep and sumptuous. Comfort levels are very good, and the clamp force is just enough to provide their great seal, but not too much to be uncomfortable. Overall the CRBN gets an A+ from me in this area. Really well done Audeze.

The CRBN is slightly difficult to drive in terms of electrostatic headphones. You will be well rewarded for providing them with an amplifier that can provide good, and consistent power. Things like the Headamp BHSE, Eksonic T2, KGSSHV Carbon are all good options. I think at the least I would recommend a KGSSHV for the CRBN (or similar.)

Comparisons​

Compared to the headphone it is directly competing with, the Stax SR009S, the Audeze strikes an entirely different sonic signature. The Stax sounds like an electrostatic headphone and does all those typical traits very well. The CRBN has a better more robust low end and does not have the typical electrostatic air and sparkle in the high end. After a bit of tweaking via EQ, I think the CRBN would be my overall preference between these two headphones.

Compared to the LCD-4, the CRBN is similar in some ways but very different in others. The LCD-4 has “old Audeze” tuning, and the CRBN has “new Audeze” tuning if you will. The LCD-4 is much more laid back and relaxed, it is a warm hug of a headphone compared to the CRBN in its stock tuning. I think the CRBN wins in terms of overall detail levels and technical performance, but the LCD-4 is the right choice for someone who wants a laid-back listen that remains well detailed. I would be really curious to see Audeze continue to develop on the electrostatic side and perhaps do a CRBN Classic, which is tuned like the classic Audeze models. I think that might sell very well for them. Only time will tell if the market wants that product I suppose.

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Conclusion​

Overall, the Audeze CRBN has been a bit of a saga for me. It didn’t really start out all that well, but Audeze has put the CRBN right and really has a good headphone on their hands now. Though the stock tuning isn’t personally for me, with some tweaking with EQ, the CRBN becomes an immensely enjoyable headphone to listen to. It is also the best built and high-quality feeling headphone I have come across so far, whilst remaining very comfortable for longer listening sessions. Nowadays, I can definitely recommend the CRBN if you either enjoy a mostly neutral tuning with forward upper mids. Also, if you are willing to EQ to your preference, the CRBN takes well to it, whilst retaining very good overall technical performance. The CRBN had a rocky start, but I definitely would recommend it these days, if you take into account the aforementioned points about tuning and personal preferences.
After reading your wonderfully comprehensive review of the CRBNs, I pulled my set out of the closet and wrote a note to Audeze support. My set was from an early batch and I even sent it in once for repair, but it still has to many issues to use comfortably. Your review prodded me to try again. It will be interesting to see if Audeze is willing to fix them one final time. Thanks again for the great write up!
 
Aug 17, 2023 at 8:40 PM Post #1,847 of 1,910
After reading your wonderfully comprehensive review of the CRBNs, I pulled my set out of the closet and wrote a note to Audeze support. My set was from an early batch and I even sent it in once for repair, but it still has to many issues to use comfortably. Your review prodded me to try again. It will be interesting to see if Audeze is willing to fix them one final time. Thanks again for the great write up!
I hope that if the drivers in your pair are not the current spec, they get that sorted for you :) Thanks for the kind words also, I appreciate it :beerchug::)
 
Aug 23, 2023 at 11:07 AM Post #1,848 of 1,910
I think I like to use this forum to publicly complain about quality control at Audeze. This is nothing new and boring to read for most people. Still here I go with my rant:

- I recently bought an open box CRBN from an authorized dealer in Germany. It had left Audeze factory on 10th of January 2022 and showed the usual defects (and less obvious other ones) widely reported from their early batches.
- the German distributor thankfully exchanged the model to a new one, which had left Audeze factory on 23rd of March 2022. This model has a very obvious channel imbalance, the right channel chiming in notably only after 100Hz. From the upper mids onwards both channels are more or less matching (I got the same result with two different amps, as well when exchanging the channels and also while wearing them wrongsided).

Please, Audeze, I understand that this is your first electrostatic headphone, and it has got amazing potential. I also fully understand that there may be problems with new developments. Still, there is a solution to that: have thorough quality controls, make sure that distributers are not sitting on old and potentially defective batches and last but not least sell them not in a price range of luxury goods when you are not able to deliver a certain standard.

I bought a MM-500 this year and am quite pleased with it. Still, it's clearly underperforming for the price, especially resolution wise and not up to the advertised standard in my opinion. I am ready to pay a higher price for quality products, but there are limits to goodwill, and these limits I almost reached with my CRBN-experiences. I now hope to receive a fully functioning CRBN. If the third model will be defective as well, then what? Hifiman? One of these - for the price - ridiculously crappy built Susvaras maybe? Nope. - I guess, then it's time for Raal or Heddaudio, who seem to offer a more realistic price/performance ratio.

At least this little rant makes me feel better. Cheers...
 
Aug 23, 2023 at 12:37 PM Post #1,849 of 1,910
I think I like to use this forum to publicly complain about quality control at Audeze. This is nothing new and boring to read for most people. Still here I go with my rant:

- I recently bought an open box CRBN from an authorized dealer in Germany. It had left Audeze factory on 10th of January 2022 and showed the usual defects (and less obvious other ones) widely reported from their early batches.
- the German distributor thankfully exchanged the model to a new one, which had left Audeze factory on 23rd of March 2022. This model has a very obvious channel imbalance, the right channel chiming in notably only after 100Hz. From the upper mids onwards both channels are more or less matching (I got the same result with two different amps, as well when exchanging the channels and also while wearing them wrongsided).

Please, Audeze, I understand that this is your first electrostatic headphone, and it has got amazing potential. I also fully understand that there may be problems with new developments. Still, there is a solution to that: have thorough quality controls, make sure that distributers are not sitting on old and potentially defective batches and last but not least sell them not in a price range of luxury goods when you are not able to deliver a certain standard.

I bought a MM-500 this year and am quite pleased with it. Still, it's clearly underperforming for the price, especially resolution wise and not up to the advertised standard in my opinion. I am ready to pay a higher price for quality products, but there are limits to goodwill, and these limits I almost reached with my CRBN-experiences. I now hope to receive a fully functioning CRBN. If the third model will be defective as well, then what? Hifiman? One of these - for the price - ridiculously crappy built Susvaras maybe? Nope. - I guess, then it's time for Raal or Heddaudio, who seem to offer a more realistic price/performance ratio.

At least this little rant makes me feel better. Cheers...
We're truly sorry about the issues you've had with the CRBN. We'd like to personally get that unit back and inspected, so please check your direct messages shortly.

 
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Aug 23, 2023 at 1:19 PM Post #1,850 of 1,910
Thanks for chiming in. With less proudly priced headphones it wouldn’t be such a big deal, really! But receiving a faulty pair of CRBN’s two times in a row and hereby outsourcing quality control to the customer, is not an experience I wanted to take an easy stand with.
 
Aug 23, 2023 at 1:26 PM Post #1,851 of 1,910
I think I like to use this forum to publicly complain about quality control at Audeze. This is nothing new and boring to read for most people. Still here I go with my rant:

- I recently bought an open box CRBN from an authorized dealer in Germany. It had left Audeze factory on 10th of January 2022
- the German distributor thankfully exchanged the model to a new one, which had left Audeze factory on 23rd of March 2022.
Apologies for the issues. Can you confirm the dates ? Jan and March 2022 ? We had proactively asked our distributors to send old and demo units. If you DM me your serial number, I can take a look at the internal QC checks. On the imbalance issue, we would like to talk to you to figure out the issue. We had a couple of units that came back and the units just needed to be discharged.
 
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Aug 23, 2023 at 1:47 PM Post #1,852 of 1,910
Apologies for the issues. Can you confirm the dates ? Jan and March 2022 ? We had proactively asked our distributors to send old and demo units. If you DM me your serial number, I can take a look at the internal QC checks. On the imbalance issue, we would like to talk to you to figure out the issue. We had a couple of units that came back and the units just needed to be discharged.
Sent you a PM. I discharged them several times and before every new test run. Contrary to my first pair they did not have problems with static (static crackling and clipping in the bass) and ran smoothly apart from the imbalance.
My KGSSHV is being correctly driven with exactly 4Vrms. The same problems occurred as well with Stax 353X.
 
Aug 23, 2023 at 7:39 PM Post #1,853 of 1,910
I think I like to use this forum to publicly complain about quality control at Audeze. This is nothing new and boring to read for most people. Still here I go with my rant:

- I recently bought an open box CRBN from an authorized dealer in Germany. It had left Audeze factory on 10th of January 2022 and showed the usual defects (and less obvious other ones) widely reported from their early batches.
- the German distributor thankfully exchanged the model to a new one, which had left Audeze factory on 23rd of March 2022. This model has a very obvious channel imbalance, the right channel chiming in notably only after 100Hz. From the upper mids onwards both channels are more or less matching (I got the same result with two different amps, as well when exchanging the channels and also while wearing them wrongsided).

Please, Audeze, I understand that this is your first electrostatic headphone, and it has got amazing potential. I also fully understand that there may be problems with new developments. Still, there is a solution to that: have thorough quality controls, make sure that distributers are not sitting on old and potentially defective batches and last but not least sell them not in a price range of luxury goods when you are not able to deliver a certain standard.

I bought a MM-500 this year and am quite pleased with it. Still, it's clearly underperforming for the price, especially resolution wise and not up to the advertised standard in my opinion. I am ready to pay a higher price for quality products, but there are limits to goodwill, and these limits I almost reached with my CRBN-experiences. I now hope to receive a fully functioning CRBN. If the third model will be defective as well, then what? Hifiman? One of these - for the price - ridiculously crappy built Susvaras maybe? Nope. - I guess, then it's time for Raal or Heddaudio, who seem to offer a more realistic price/performance ratio.

At least this little rant makes me feel better. Cheers...
My own bone to pick with Audeze aside, I simply abhor companies that do the absolute minimum possible in the hope that customers just go away, regardless if they are happy or not. If you don't want happy customers, don't offer a long warranty. Caveat Emptor and the like. It worked out well for Focal...
 
Aug 24, 2023 at 4:37 PM Post #1,854 of 1,910
I wonder what the acquisition of Audeze by Sony will do to the CBRN line and customer service?
 
Aug 25, 2023 at 3:08 PM Post #1,855 of 1,910
Aug 25, 2023 at 8:46 PM Post #1,856 of 1,910
I wonder what the acquisition of Audeze by Sony will do to the CBRN line and customer service?
Couldn't possibly get much worse....
 
Oct 6, 2023 at 7:41 PM Post #1,857 of 1,910
So, based on good results achieved by others who sent their CRBNs back to Audeze, I decided to send mine back for a second time. I purchased an early batch and the well documented problems made them unlistenable. They were made better the first time I sent them back, but they still were too problematic to tolerate. I just got them back today after resending them a second time. Audeze kept them a full 2 weeks. So far, they appear to be fixed. All of the well documented sticking and farting issues seem to be gone. They are functioning without problems just like all my other e-stats. Before I sent them back, I wasn't aware of the Bob Katz EQ profile. Also, I have become a Roon user in the interim so I am looking forward to trying the Audeze CRBN preset built into Roon to temper their FR. I am excited to rediscover what these headphones are capable of, especially now that well thought out EQ is out there for them. I will be using them off a carbon cc, so there won't be any issues around adequate amplification. I am happy that Audeze was willing to fix these. I would love to know what Audeze did to make these perform the way they should have from day one.
 
Oct 7, 2023 at 12:01 AM Post #1,858 of 1,910
So, based on good results achieved by others who sent their CRBNs back to Audeze, I decided to send mine back for a second time. I purchased an early batch and the well documented problems made them unlistenable. They were made better the first time I sent them back, but they still were too problematic to tolerate. I just got them back today after resending them a second time. Audeze kept them a full 2 weeks. So far, they appear to be fixed. All of the well documented sticking and farting issues seem to be gone. They are functioning without problems just like all my other e-stats. Before I sent them back, I wasn't aware of the Bob Katz EQ profile. Also, I have become a Roon user in the interim so I am looking forward to trying the Audeze CRBN preset built into Roon to temper their FR. I am excited to rediscover what these headphones are capable of, especially now that well thought out EQ is out there for them. I will be using them off a carbon cc, so there won't be any issues around adequate amplification. I am happy that Audeze was willing to fix these. I would love to know what Audeze did to make these perform the way they should have from day one.
That's good to hear. Hopefully now you can fully enjoy CRBN. In terms of EQ, I still prefer Bob Katz' EQ as opposed to Audeze CRBN preset in Roon (though I believe the preset is also based on BK's EQ). One thing to note that if you want to apply BK's EQ in Roon, you will need to modify the lowest band a bit. It's because Roon's lowest band only goes to 20Hz, whereas BK's EQ uses 18Hz. The key is try to maintain the FR chart shape as much as possible (see here: https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/audeze-crbn-electrostatic-headphones/).
 
Oct 7, 2023 at 10:24 AM Post #1,859 of 1,910
That's good to hear. Hopefully now you can fully enjoy CRBN. In terms of EQ, I still prefer Bob Katz' EQ as opposed to Audeze CRBN preset in Roon (though I believe the preset is also based on BK's EQ). One thing to note that if you want to apply BK's EQ in Roon, you will need to modify the lowest band a bit. It's because Roon's lowest band only goes to 20Hz, whereas BK's EQ uses 18Hz. The key is try to maintain the FR chart shape as much as possible (see here: https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/audeze-crbn-electrostatic-headphones/).
I recommend using Roon's Audeze presets instead of plugging in the PEQ values. Especially, using the linear presets will result in more accurate reproduction of Bob's EQ. They were derived directly from DMG Equilibrium that I too like to use, based on Bob's recommendations.

A lot of work went into the creation of the presets, instead of being a matter of preference or just following a target curve, they are meant to close the loop, so the CRBNs sounds like what they were intended to sound like based on reference material Bob Katz mastered.
 

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