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ZMF Verite

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by heliosphann, Oct 3, 2018.
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  1. B1ll
    Got a chance to put ears on them at the factory, they are very very resolving, more colored than the Auteur, and have a bigger sound stage. Huge low end and mid bass, more than the Auteur, brighter than the Auteur — think of a mix between the Utopia and the HD800, and you have the Verite.
     
  2. erpguru
    Only comment that makes me worries is "bright", any sibilance present? that is one thing that turns me off to a can immediately..
     
  3. Blase
    It depends on how treble sensitive the reviewer is. I've read more impressions that said they were darker than bright. You'll probably have to hear them yourselves to know if you like the treble.
     
  4. wazzupi
    Utopia is a colored can now ? im really confused are you describing treble to be hd800/utopia like

    Coloured- Having timbres that are not true to life. Non flat response; peaks or dips is this what people are talking about ?? But isnt the verite suppose to sound natural ?? I dont understand whats going on anymore
     
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  5. B1ll
    The Utopia is bright/neutral like the Verite and the HD800, and unlike the Auteur which is neutral/slightly dark.
     
  6. wazzupi
    Oh ok
     
  7. ProfFalkin
    The Verite does not sound like the hd800. Just my $0.02
     
  8. Viper2005
    Which pads were you using on the Verite? Also what amp?
     
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  9. B1ll
    I think they’re fairly similar, but the Verite is faster and has more bass presence. Why do you feel they are dissimilar?

    I was using vegan pads I think, I forget.
     
  10. LCMusicLover
    Funny, I would call Utopia (w/ stock pads) somewhat bright, but I wouldn't call my Blackwood Auteur dark. I wonder if this is an amp pairing difference, or just 'your ears, my ears'.

    Of course, I've heard impressions of Auteur along the lines of 'dull/boring/lifeless', while I hear them as energetic/exciting/lively.
     
  11. Monsterzero
    Not in the least.
     
  12. zach915m
    We had a Vegan listener come over before you did so my apologies if I left those on for your session, they would make them a touch brighter. There were two sets out there though and I think one had leather pads on it at least?

    The Verite frequency response is darker than auteur, but the transient speed makes up for a lot of it. For me, the Verite pads on Verite (flatter pads) is fairly linear in a gentle down-slope kind of way, and the Universe pads are more 3D, bassier/warmer and more forgiving in the treble.

    The headphones ship with Universe on them but it's been 50/50 on user preference so far. I don't think anyone has called them sibilant yet!
     
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  13. erpguru
    Sounds like the universe pads are my choice then! I never really placed much attention to comments about pads before the Autuer - their signature changes substantially depending on the pads used with them, was quite an experience for someone new to high end cans to actually experience the differences first-hand. As much as others can describe, measure, or articulate the sound of a headphone it is much like art and so subjective and a personal experience of the listener.

    Can't wait to experience these Verite first hand :)
     
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  14. ProfFalkin
    The hd800 has an artificially wide stage, that infamous 6k peak, and sounds overly bright and lacking in bass freq to me. Verite has a far better, more naturally correct stage (if that makes sense), doesn't lack in bass freqs, is way faster and presents the music more coherently to my ears.

    Now, I did hear a silkwood with Verite pads, and maybe that's where you're coming from. That one sounded bass light and brighter. The pheasant wood with universe pads are way different sounding.
     
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  15. pippen99
    The Verite frequency response is darker than auteur, but the transient speed makes up for a lot of it. For me, the Verite pads on Verite (flatter pads) is fairly linear in a gentle down-slope kind of way, and the Universe pads are more 3D, bassier/warmer and more forgiving in the treble.(Quote)

    This is what I am hoping for with the Verite. For the short time I owned the Auteur I found the stock pads too bright and used the Eikon pads. I never got around to trying the suede pads. Sounds like the Universe pads will be my preferred choice.
     
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