ZMF November 2024 // Schedule - Announcements and MEGATHREAD!

Feb 7, 2025 at 8:23 PM Post #2,686 of 2,839
Hang in there!

Great start to the weekend with the newly-arrived AO. Will be using it to pre-listen to the line-up for the Big Ears Festival next month in Knoxville. Anyone else on here going?

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Feb 7, 2025 at 8:36 PM Post #2,687 of 2,839
Personally I'd say it needs to sound good.

If a DAC isn't supposed to alter the Sound in order to make it sound better (more pleasant is probably a better term here) a headphone or speaker isn't supposed to do that either.

Why is there never an outcry when headphones alter the sound?
Technically they also are only supposed to reproduce the sound 1:1 how it would sound in real life and is saved on the recordings.

Many of us who build a setup, choose their devices for how they alter the sound.
Jason Stoddard once said, that everyone is basically looking for the right distortion profile.
Pulled the trigger on the Helene. Should hopefully be here Tuesday. 😁😁. All 88lbs of pure dac glory. Keep eyes on the classifieds as it was expensive af and I will be offloading stuff soon.

Genus..... Well that will be a while. It's a monster expense for my humble cloth and I don't know if I could part with any ZMF's 😂

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Feb 7, 2025 at 8:39 PM Post #2,688 of 2,839
Congrats! Enjoy that special sounding DAC :)
 
Feb 7, 2025 at 8:42 PM Post #2,689 of 2,839
Congrats! Enjoy that special sounding DAC :)
Thanks! I'm super excited. It's the most I've ever spent on a singular new piece of gear.

Incredibly curious how it will pair with ZMF's since it's technically a tube dac, and the eventual Genus is a tube integrated amp/headphone amp. Every other time I have heard ZMF on tubes it's been a delight.
 
Feb 7, 2025 at 10:09 PM Post #2,690 of 2,839
Mega Salire arrived! Replaced 2 regular sized ones which barely fit in the same spot. Also freed up of few inches of desk space, so I'm happy with it!

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Feb 8, 2025 at 12:39 AM Post #2,691 of 2,839
Mega Salire arrived! Replaced 2 regular sized ones which barely fit in the same spot. Also freed up of few inches of desk space, so I'm happy with it!

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Congrats! Such a great-looking trio of ZMFs, too!
 
Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57 AM Post #2,692 of 2,839
Mega Salire arrived! Replaced 2 regular sized ones which barely fit in the same spot. Also freed up of few inches of desk space, so I'm happy with it!

I am getting suede envy looking at this. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Cool looking stand, red and black cable, and headphones!
 
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Feb 8, 2025 at 10:30 AM Post #2,693 of 2,839
Hang in there!

Great start to the weekend with the newly-arrived AO. Will be using it to pre-listen to the line-up for the Big Ears Festival next month in Knoxville. Anyone else on here going?
Big Ears is festival I would love to attend. So many great musicians. Plus, I went to college in Knoxville, so love going back to visit. Don’t know anyone who would want to do it with me, though - definitely not my wife (musical differences). Will have t9 go alone one of these years…
 
Feb 8, 2025 at 3:03 PM Post #2,694 of 2,839
Big Ears is festival I would love to attend. So many great musicians. Plus, I went to college in Knoxville, so love going back to visit. Don’t know anyone who would want to do it with me, though - definitely not my wife (musical differences). Will have t9 go alone one of these years…
Just looked at this years’ lineup. WOW. Easily between 6-10 “must-see” performances on the bill. Impressively eclectic, too. Super cool that such a festival exists.
 
Feb 9, 2025 at 5:01 AM Post #2,695 of 2,839
Thanks to Zach & Bivens for siging my salire stands during HiFiCon; even though, they were busy. ZMF November has gotten better.

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Feb 9, 2025 at 1:24 PM Post #2,696 of 2,839
B-Stock Cherry AOs have arrived. Am using an iphone to burn in and will try to make it to at least 100 hrs before throwing them on the dedicated amp for a real listen. Wish me luck with the necessary will power. But, five minutes in, just to make sure the drivers were working😉, I allowed myself 10 seconds of listening.

[Shuffle-mode happened to offer up a Hermanos Gutierrez track]...

Oh wow, the timbre is startlingly good. Timbre and tone density were the selling points on this blind/deaf purchase. I'd read and watched every review the internet has to offer on the Atrium several times. So, I knew what to expect. And still, using only a humble iphone minutes into the burn-in phase, I am quite impressed. The timbre has rightly been described as 'natural' and 'raw' around here but, I'd add on by saying it is 'unvarnished.' The lack of 'gloss' is really impressive and something I'm not used to. The guitars playing on the track just sounded 'right' in an effortless way. The timbre on these things can't be overstated.

***As a side note, as someone who has watched every review that exists on the Atrium, I have a bone to pick with some youtube reviewers who say that 'it lacks in technicalities.' Clearly, I haven't burned these in and listened with a proper setup to vouch for resolution, separation, holography, etc but, how is timbre not considered a technicality; let alone the most important technicality that should be strived for? Over the years, just for fun and with no intent of making a purchase, I've listened to quite a few very expensive 2 channel setups at dealerships and walked away unimpressed despite their touted 'excellent technicalities'. Technically Impressive? Sure, but they just didn't sound 'right.' Sometimes, after a dealership visit, I even found my factory car speakers a more enjoyable listen. Fresh out the box, the AO sounds absurdly 'right.' [rant over].
WindSwell,
Thanks for your post. I bought an Atrium Open B-Stock Cocobolo, my first ZMF ! without ever hearing a ZMF. I also read/watched lots of reviews and used them to interpolate the choice I made. I am out of town, so ZMF per my requestis kindly holding my treasure to ship probably next week. So I have had lots of time to wonder how my these cans will sound. You have reassured me greatly.

In my world timbre is front and center as it is one of the three primary factors that elicit an emotional response to music: Timbre (harmonics), Rhythm (timing) & Dynamics. In short, I love being "caressed" by the timbre of the Hermanos Gutierrez oscillating guitar strings! I think/feel that my Holo Spring3 KTE DAC and Cayin H3A3 Amp with the AO might just be just the sonic magic I'm hoping for.
 
Feb 9, 2025 at 11:42 PM Post #2,697 of 2,839
In my world timbre is front and center as it is one of the three primary factors that elicit an emotional response to music: Timbre (harmonics), Rhythm (timing) & Dynamics. In short, I love being "caressed" by the timbre of the Hermanos Gutierrez oscillating guitar strings! I think/feel that my Holo Spring3 KTE DAC and Cayin H3A3 Amp with the AO might just be just the sonic magic I'm hoping for.
I'm a neophyte to the Atrium and far from an authoritative source on the matter but, I think you will be quite pleased. Have only completed 200 of the 300 hour recommended burn-in phase as well. Keep in mind I'm using the solid state Nitsch Pietus Maximus w/ built-in ESS chip and cannot speak to a tube/r2r combo. However, gut reactions have value.

Out the box, the timbre is great, as expected. Sonic textures showed up earlier than I expected too. Everything else you (and I) value takes a lot of time to develop. These changes to are, in some cases, quite subtle but make all the difference.

Even after 100 hours, the fluidity was a bit rough. Had a bunch of nervous energy. Not so much from the frequency response, but more from the time domain and transients. It presented plenty of fancy 'hi-fi' goodness but, I didn't find it as 'musical' as I wanted due to this. Also, the imaging/soundstage was flat and overly defined whereas I prefer more diffusion. And where is the bass? All in all, it sounded a little too stereotypically 'hi-fi' for my taste. Too 'uptight' to be more specific. Interestingly, I found details more forward at this stage as well.

At the 200 hour mark the AO is much improved with regard to timing, fluidity, overtones, cohesion, frequency extension, and staging. Pitch differentiation on bass notes is also great, which really helps the overall sense of timbral continuity. Though, I will say, tone is a bit warmer/richer now than out of the box. Pads swaps may correct this if one prefers a more 'transparent' tone. Currently I find it a pleasant balance between absolute timbral accuracy and a more romantic analog sound. But, I see myself pad swapping in the future according to mood. The flexibility that pads, meshes, and cables offer to shift the sound was a big selling point. At this level of resolution minor warts, or even just slight differences in preference, become major.

Dynamics are also as advertised after 200 hours. Very nice clarity from low level sounds contrasting well with louder, more overt instrumentation. Impact is better than I expected and helps reinforce the dynamics. Coming from the E-Mu Teak, I had concerns that the punchiness one gets from a closed back headphone might be a letdown on the far more open backed Atrium; it is not. I'll admit it, at the 100 hr. mark, I thought I should have gone for the Atrium Closed instead. That is no longer the case.

Image and stage are also now more diffuse and enveloping; more natural to my ears. If your preference is to be 'swimming' in tones you will really like these. The atmospheric sense I'm getting from not just natural instruments like guitars that have reverb, but also Fender-Rhodes pianos and vintage analog synths, is kinda awesome. Your Cayin/Holo combo should only accentuate this.

I'm digging the Atrium Open thus far. The presentation is pretty neat, for lack of a better term. Its quite detailed but, not 'showy' about it. If you want to focus on it, you certainly can. Instead, my attention is naturally drawn towards the overall atmosphere and mood due to how good the timbre is. Being a new toy, I thought I would focus more on all the little things the headphone is doing, instead its forcing me to actually focus on the music. Strange concept, I know.
 
Feb 10, 2025 at 8:43 AM Post #2,698 of 2,839
Thanks to Zach & Bivens for siging my salire stands during HiFiCon; even though, they were busy. ZMF November has gotten better.

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Why not have the bottom signed instead?
 
Feb 10, 2025 at 8:47 AM Post #2,699 of 2,839
Just looked at this years’ lineup. WOW. Easily between 6-10 “must-see” performances on the bill. Impressively eclectic, too. Super cool that such a festival exists.
Finally got over the reticence of going alone. Now looking forward to 4 days of wall-to-wall music from some pretty incredible artists in some (relatively) small venues.
 
Feb 10, 2025 at 12:15 PM Post #2,700 of 2,839
Why not have the bottom signed instead?
Because I like to see the signatures similar to how I like my sports memorabilia and painting/print work.
 

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