ZMF Bokeh - Open Back Headphones

Jan 13, 2025 at 6:44 AM Post #707 of 1,316
Thanks.
I'm still hesitating between the Bokeh and the Hifiman HE-1000 Stealth... Without testing it's difficult to decide.
Pretty much the opposite ends of the spectrum. HEK sounds larger, airier, lighter, more detailed. BO sounds weightier, denser with more bass and a thick, organic texture.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 7:27 AM Post #708 of 1,316
General Sound impressions:

The General sound to me of the Bokeh Open is “fun”. Addicting fun actually. It is hard not to put her down and hard not to put her back on your head.

Her mid bass is the star that first comes to my attention. A tight heavy mid bass. Not bloated. There is plenty of treble but nothing annoying. I find with Mid bass as a focus sometimes the mid range gets recessed a bit. I am not finding that happening. Thank goodness. I am a friend of mids in general and upper mids to be more exact.

The sound of her is not laid back. The sound comes to you and wants to have a good time. Warm and milk chocolate sound is not her thing. She is not a Latte. She is a wonderful tasting Espresso with a dollop of froth on top.
I always enjoy reading your impressions and then I get hungry with an urge to start cooking something in the kitchen 😋
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 7:37 AM Post #709 of 1,316
Thanks.
I'm still hesitating between the Bokeh and the Hifiman HE-1000 Stealth... Without testing it's difficult to decide.

Get both. I love my HE1000 Stealth, but sometimes I want something that's technically "worse", it gets tiresome to hear all the stuff that doesn't matter musically (shuffling feet, breathing etc.). Im hoping the Bokeh is more about the music and less about being a microscope into the recording. We'll see.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 9:11 AM Post #710 of 1,316
Get both. I love my HE1000 Stealth, but sometimes I want something that's technically "worse", it gets tiresome to hear all the stuff that doesn't matter musically (shuffling feet, breathing etc.). Im hoping the Bokeh is more about the music and less about being a microscope into the recording. We'll see.
Yah, get both. But you definitely can’t go wrong with he1000 stealth, it’s one of my favourite headphones, really great with everything.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 1:02 PM Post #712 of 1,316
I've had the BO for awhile now, new toy syndrome is definitely no longer an issue. I've run it up against all my other ZMFs on many different setups. I thought I'd leave some late impressions now that I know it well and how it sits in my lineup. Something to sum up the BO for me. Big thanks to Zach for letting me demo it, I appreciate it immensely.

I'll start with this, the BO is pure fun to listen to. I listen for musicality, and the BO has it in spades. It has big bass, lovely mids, and extended treble that's fatigue free. Dynamics are excellent. Transients hit hard, with moderate decay and weight. It's energetic but not fatiguing. It's very much a Goldilocks tuning IMO. I also find it does all genres well. I personally love it with metal, rock, and blues. Anything guitar based really resonates. I won't go into detail on the frequency response, I've done that in past posts. It just works, and works well.

So ok, I like it. How about system notes. Anything really work well or not so well? Well anyone who knows me knows I don't like solid state. And that carries over to the BO. My meager solid state amps (Jotunheim 2 and Asgard 3) were a bit too aggressive for my tastes, and tonally too lean. I'm a tube man, and that's where my heart is at. The BO takes to tubes incredibly well. I've run it on all my tube amps, and there really isn't one in the lineup that wasn't at least good, if not great. A few standouts: Stratus, Jinx, Aegis, Tuba. Those amps really drive the BO well and bring out the musicality of the drivers. I won't bother with details, those amps all made the BO sound extremely fun and engaging, especially the Stratus. The under the radar hit was the Hagerman Tuba. I wish he still made them, this is such an underrated amplifier. Those other amps did sound better, but the Tuba was so close in the fun department at such a discount, it has to be told. If you ever see one on the used market just buy it, seriously. Don't hesitate, don't haggle over price, just buy and enjoy. Ok enough about the Tuba, back to the BO.

Where does the BO rank in my lineup? Oh that's tough. I'm not sure I'm fully ready to answer that yet, my tastes have shifted over the last year and hence my lineup rankings in general have flipped like crazy. But I'll give it a try with the caveat that this is not my final ranking, just where I sit right now amidst changing sonic priorities. I still put musicality above all, but I'm starting to gravitate towards the less dark ZMFs. Ok onto the rankings...

First off let me say which sets the BO sits ahead of, this is the easier task: I grab my BO over my Atticus, VC, and CC. Like every time I compare those to the BO I just like the BO more and don't want to bother analyzing or comparing. I just want to listen to the BO and enjoy. I won't go into details as to why other than from a macro standpoint the BO grabs my attention better and doesn't let go. When swapping to any of the others there's a disappointment factor that's tangible. Not that I'm disappointed in any of them as whole, just that I'd rather listen to the BO.

Ok that still leaves both Atriums, the BC, Auteur Classic, and Eikonic. This is where things get hard, really hard. Any of these headphones can grab my attention and make me rank them 1st. These are my core headphones, the ones I could live with on a daily basis. The others above I do love for various things, but they would not be my only ZMF. Any of these here could be my one and only if I were forced to consolidate. So let me take a stab at where the BO sits. Please take with a huge grain of salt that at any point of any day this ranking will change as I do love them all. But as of today...

Well lets start with the Bokeh throwdown, BC vs BO. Though I adore the BC, I do hear the BO as the more engaging set. It has about as much bass punch as the BC, but has more present and full mids, and Goldilocks treble. The treble is very present and forward, but not fatiguing. The BC's treble is a bit more subdued than the BO. That isn't a bad thing, but with treble this good I like more of it. Also I just think the BO's mids are more nuanced and expressive. They have more air and room to breathe being open. So the BO puts the BC in the rearview mirror I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I'm selling the BC, hel no. Still love it.

Ok Atriums, and i'll address both the AO and AC as one, as my thoughts on them vs the BO go the same way. This is a tough one, they're different sounding. Being biocellulose drivers, they have a wetter, thicker, more euphonic and warm tuning. At times I like that over the drier and brighter BO. But then the BO's even tunning at times trumps the Atriums for general listening. From a generalist perspective it's pretty much a tie. For a tie breaker lets move to my preferred genre...METAL! The genre with the worst recording quality. The genre that is as low fi as it gets in a hi fi world. I swear to be a metal band you are required to record your early albums in a tin box with a cassette recorder. Enough stalling. I'll give the slight edge to the Atriums. Why? The brightness of the BO can at times work against it when listening to the worst of metal recordings. Those tin box recordings that feature excessive gain and sibilance like no other. The BO can handle them ok but the Atriums are smoother and darker, making them just that much easier to listen to. If the metal recordings are of higher quality then I'd put the BO over the Atriums by a hair for the treble presence. Give me some Van Halen on the BO and I've got goosebumps. But as a whole I'd give the Atriums just a very slight edge overall.

That leaves the Auteur Classic (ATC). This headphone has dominated my attention since I got it at CanJam this summer. I had the Auteur in the past but back then my tastes ran as dark as it could get. The Atticus was my reigning champ, and I would have made it darker if possible. I sold it as I just didn't listen to it much. Now I'm liking more balance in my frequency response. And balance is what the ATC is all about. It's the most neutral of the ZMF lineup but far from thin or bright or lean. Actually it has a wonderful inherent warmth to it to go with such a balanced tuning. The BO in comparison has a slight V shape vs the ATC. The bass and treble are both more present on the BO, with the mids not being as forward as the ATC. The ATC mids are my favorite mids in all the ZMF lineup, period. Plus the ATC has biocellulose drivers, like the Atriums. It has that wonderful wetness I crave. When I compare the ATC and BO there's two factors at play that really alter my rankings of them. If the music calls for big bass to drive the beat, I tend to gravitate towards the BO. It's bass levels are just bigger and more engaging most of the time to me. But where the ATC counters is with specifically guitars and vocals, both of which resides mostly in the mids. And I did say the mids of the ATC are my personal fav, didn't I? So you can see where this is going, the ATC grabs my attention more for a lot of metal and singer/songwriter stuff. I give the slight advantage to the ATC here, by a hair.

A good illustration was one evening while comparing the BO and ATC, I hit a few of my favorite metal test tracks from Testament. They have decent overall recording quality with Chuck Billy having a wonderful thick and gruff voice. He used to be a screamer but in the more modern albums goes with traditional vocals. And the ATC just grabbed me. The bass hit hard enough that I wasn't missing the BO, and Chuck sounded so menacing and powerful, i was enthralled. Then came the solos. The ATC has wonderful treble extension to go with those perfect mids, and I was hooked listening. I forced myself to move to the BO a few times, but it wasn't as smooth and engaging as the ATC. I stopped comparing them and spent 3 hours going through Testament's album catalog. Despite the ATC being less bassy and leaner overall, my enjoyment was greater with the overall performance vs the BO.

So there you have it, the BO sits near the top of my lineup, within striking distance of #1. Ask me tomorrow, after I spend the day today with the BO and Jinx amp, and I might put it over the top. That's how close it is. It's a wonderful headphone with IMO the next generation of tuning from ZMF. There's a balance to the tuning that's remarkable. I give it my biggest compliment by purchasing it. If Zach will sell me the demo unit I'll keep it. If I have to return it, I'll be buying one shortly.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 1:55 PM Post #713 of 1,316
I've had the BO for awhile now, new toy syndrome is definitely no longer an issue. I've run it up against all my other ZMFs on many different setups. I thought I'd leave some late impressions now that I know it well and how it sits in my lineup. Something to sum up the BO for me. Big thanks to Zach for letting me demo it, I appreciate it immensely.

I'll start with this, the BO is pure fun to listen to. I listen for musicality, and the BO has it in spades. It has big bass, lovely mids, and extended treble that's fatigue free. Dynamics are excellent. Transients hit hard, with moderate decay and weight. It's energetic but not fatiguing. It's very much a Goldilocks tuning IMO. I also find it does all genres well. I personally love it with metal, rock, and blues. Anything guitar based really resonates. I won't go into detail on the frequency response, I've done that in past posts. It just works, and works well.

So ok, I like it. How about system notes. Anything really work well or not so well? Well anyone who knows me knows I don't like solid state. And that carries over to the BO. My meager solid state amps (Jotunheim 2 and Asgard 3) were a bit too aggressive for my tastes, and tonally too lean. I'm a tube man, and that's where my heart is at. The BO takes to tubes incredibly well. I've run it on all my tube amps, and there really isn't one in the lineup that wasn't at least good, if not great. A few standouts: Stratus, Jinx, Aegis, Tuba. Those amps really drive the BO well and bring out the musicality of the drivers. I won't bother with details, those amps all made the BO sound extremely fun and engaging, especially the Stratus. The under the radar hit was the Hagerman Tuba. I wish he still made them, this is such an underrated amplifier. Those other amps did sound better, but the Tuba was so close in the fun department at such a discount, it has to be told. If you ever see one on the used market just buy it, seriously. Don't hesitate, don't haggle over price, just buy and enjoy. Ok enough about the Tuba, back to the BO.

Where does the BO rank in my lineup? Oh that's tough. I'm not sure I'm fully ready to answer that yet, my tastes have shifted over the last year and hence my lineup rankings in general have flipped like crazy. But I'll give it a try with the caveat that this is not my final ranking, just where I sit right now amidst changing sonic priorities. I still put musicality above all, but I'm starting to gravitate towards the less dark ZMFs. Ok onto the rankings...

First off let me say which sets the BO sits ahead of, this is the easier task: I grab my BO over my Atticus, VC, and CC. Like every time I compare those to the BO I just like the BO more and don't want to bother analyzing or comparing. I just want to listen to the BO and enjoy. I won't go into details as to why other than from a macro standpoint the BO grabs my attention better and doesn't let go. When swapping to any of the others there's a disappointment factor that's tangible. Not that I'm disappointed in any of them as whole, just that I'd rather listen to the BO.

Ok that still leaves both Atriums, the BC, Auteur Classic, and Eikonic. This is where things get hard, really hard. Any of these headphones can grab my attention and make me rank them 1st. These are my core headphones, the ones I could live with on a daily basis. The others above I do love for various things, but they would not be my only ZMF. Any of these here could be my one and only if I were forced to consolidate. So let me take a stab at where the BO sits. Please take with a huge grain of salt that at any point of any day this ranking will change as I do love them all. But as of today...

Well lets start with the Bokeh throwdown, BC vs BO. Though I adore the BC, I do hear the BO as the more engaging set. It has about as much bass punch as the BC, but has more present and full mids, and Goldilocks treble. The treble is very present and forward, but not fatiguing. The BC's treble is a bit more subdued than the BO. That isn't a bad thing, but with treble this good I like more of it. Also I just think the BO's mids are more nuanced and expressive. They have more air and room to breathe being open. So the BO puts the BC in the rearview mirror I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I'm selling the BC, hel no. Still love it.

Ok Atriums, and i'll address both the AO and AC as one, as my thoughts on them vs the BO go the same way. This is a tough one, they're different sounding. Being biocellulose drivers, they have a wetter, thicker, more euphonic and warm tuning. At times I like that over the drier and brighter BO. But then the BO's even tunning at times trumps the Atriums for general listening. From a generalist perspective it's pretty much a tie. For a tie breaker lets move to my preferred genre...METAL! The genre with the worst recording quality. The genre that is as low fi as it gets in a hi fi world. I swear to be a metal band you are required to record your early albums in a tin box with a cassette recorder. Enough stalling. I'll give the slight edge to the Atriums. Why? The brightness of the BO can at times work against it when listening to the worst of metal recordings. Those tin box recordings that feature excessive gain and sibilance like no other. The BO can handle them ok but the Atriums are smoother and darker, making them just that much easier to listen to. If the metal recordings are of higher quality then I'd put the BO over the Atriums by a hair for the treble presence. Give me some Van Halen on the BO and I've got goosebumps. But as a whole I'd give the Atriums just a very slight edge overall.

That leaves the Auteur Classic (ATC). This headphone has dominated my attention since I got it at CanJam this summer. I had the Auteur in the past but back then my tastes ran as dark as it could get. The Atticus was my reigning champ, and I would have made it darker if possible. I sold it as I just didn't listen to it much. Now I'm liking more balance in my frequency response. And balance is what the ATC is all about. It's the most neutral of the ZMF lineup but far from thin or bright or lean. Actually it has a wonderful inherent warmth to it to go with such a balanced tuning. The BO in comparison has a slight V shape vs the ATC. The bass and treble are both more present on the BO, with the mids not being as forward as the ATC. The ATC mids are my favorite mids in all the ZMF lineup, period. Plus the ATC has biocellulose drivers, like the Atriums. It has that wonderful wetness I crave. When I compare the ATC and BO there's two factors at play that really alter my rankings of them. If the music calls for big bass to drive the beat, I tend to gravitate towards the BO. It's bass levels are just bigger and more engaging most of the time to me. But where the ATC counters is with specifically guitars and vocals, both of which resides mostly in the mids. And I did say the mids of the ATC are my personal fav, didn't I? So you can see where this is going, the ATC grabs my attention more for a lot of metal and singer/songwriter stuff. I give the slight advantage to the ATC here, by a hair.

A good illustration was one evening while comparing the BO and ATC, I hit a few of my favorite metal test tracks from Testament. They have decent overall recording quality with Chuck Billy having a wonderful thick and gruff voice. He used to be a screamer but in the more modern albums goes with traditional vocals. And the ATC just grabbed me. The bass hit hard enough that I wasn't missing the BO, and Chuck sounded so menacing and powerful, i was enthralled. Then came the solos. The ATC has wonderful treble extension to go with those perfect mids, and I was hooked listening. I forced myself to move to the BO a few times, but it wasn't as smooth and engaging as the ATC. I stopped comparing them and spent 3 hours going through Testament's album catalog. Despite the ATC being less bassy and leaner overall, my enjoyment was greater with the overall performance vs the BO.

So there you have it, the BO sits near the top of my lineup, within striking distance of #1. Ask me tomorrow, after I spend the day today with the BO and Jinx amp, and I might put it over the top. That's how close it is. It's a wonderful headphone with IMO the next generation of tuning from ZMF. There's a balance to the tuning that's remarkable. I give it my biggest compliment by purchasing it. If Zach will sell me the demo unit I'll keep it. If I have to return it, I'll be buying one shortly.
Thanks for such a great response with your thoughts comparing to other ZMF cans. I’m in love with the AO and keep feeling the BO is going to be a wonderful compliment to that headphone. Anxiously awaiting my shipping notice.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 2:00 PM Post #714 of 1,316
Thanks for such a great response with your thoughts comparing to other ZMF cans. I’m in love with the AO and keep feeling the BO is going to be a wonderful compliment to that headphone. Anxiously awaiting my shipping notice.
They do make excellent compliments to each other. You get the thicker more euphonic AO with the drier brighter BO as a compliment. And I found nearly all the time they responded to systems pretty similarly. So if one sounds good on your system, the other likely will as well. That's big for me. I hate when I have one headphone thrive on one amp but not the others.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 2:56 PM Post #716 of 1,316
I've had the BO for awhile now, new toy syndrome is definitely no longer an issue. I've run it up against all my other ZMFs on many different setups. I thought I'd leave some late impressions now that I know it well and how it sits in my lineup. Something to sum up the BO for me. Big thanks to Zach for letting me demo it, I appreciate it immensely.

I'll start with this, the BO is pure fun to listen to. I listen for musicality, and the BO has it in spades. It has big bass, lovely mids, and extended treble that's fatigue free. Dynamics are excellent. Transients hit hard, with moderate decay and weight. It's energetic but not fatiguing. It's very much a Goldilocks tuning IMO. I also find it does all genres well. I personally love it with metal, rock, and blues. Anything guitar based really resonates. I won't go into detail on the frequency response, I've done that in past posts. It just works, and works well.

So ok, I like it. How about system notes. Anything really work well or not so well? Well anyone who knows me knows I don't like solid state. And that carries over to the BO. My meager solid state amps (Jotunheim 2 and Asgard 3) were a bit too aggressive for my tastes, and tonally too lean. I'm a tube man, and that's where my heart is at. The BO takes to tubes incredibly well. I've run it on all my tube amps, and there really isn't one in the lineup that wasn't at least good, if not great. A few standouts: Stratus, Jinx, Aegis, Tuba. Those amps really drive the BO well and bring out the musicality of the drivers. I won't bother with details, those amps all made the BO sound extremely fun and engaging, especially the Stratus. The under the radar hit was the Hagerman Tuba. I wish he still made them, this is such an underrated amplifier. Those other amps did sound better, but the Tuba was so close in the fun department at such a discount, it has to be told. If you ever see one on the used market just buy it, seriously. Don't hesitate, don't haggle over price, just buy and enjoy. Ok enough about the Tuba, back to the BO.

Where does the BO rank in my lineup? Oh that's tough. I'm not sure I'm fully ready to answer that yet, my tastes have shifted over the last year and hence my lineup rankings in general have flipped like crazy. But I'll give it a try with the caveat that this is not my final ranking, just where I sit right now amidst changing sonic priorities. I still put musicality above all, but I'm starting to gravitate towards the less dark ZMFs. Ok onto the rankings...

First off let me say which sets the BO sits ahead of, this is the easier task: I grab my BO over my Atticus, VC, and CC. Like every time I compare those to the BO I just like the BO more and don't want to bother analyzing or comparing. I just want to listen to the BO and enjoy. I won't go into details as to why other than from a macro standpoint the BO grabs my attention better and doesn't let go. When swapping to any of the others there's a disappointment factor that's tangible. Not that I'm disappointed in any of them as whole, just that I'd rather listen to the BO.

Ok that still leaves both Atriums, the BC, Auteur Classic, and Eikonic. This is where things get hard, really hard. Any of these headphones can grab my attention and make me rank them 1st. These are my core headphones, the ones I could live with on a daily basis. The others above I do love for various things, but they would not be my only ZMF. Any of these here could be my one and only if I were forced to consolidate. So let me take a stab at where the BO sits. Please take with a huge grain of salt that at any point of any day this ranking will change as I do love them all. But as of today...

Well lets start with the Bokeh throwdown, BC vs BO. Though I adore the BC, I do hear the BO as the more engaging set. It has about as much bass punch as the BC, but has more present and full mids, and Goldilocks treble. The treble is very present and forward, but not fatiguing. The BC's treble is a bit more subdued than the BO. That isn't a bad thing, but with treble this good I like more of it. Also I just think the BO's mids are more nuanced and expressive. They have more air and room to breathe being open. So the BO puts the BC in the rearview mirror I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I'm selling the BC, hel no. Still love it.

Ok Atriums, and i'll address both the AO and AC as one, as my thoughts on them vs the BO go the same way. This is a tough one, they're different sounding. Being biocellulose drivers, they have a wetter, thicker, more euphonic and warm tuning. At times I like that over the drier and brighter BO. But then the BO's even tunning at times trumps the Atriums for general listening. From a generalist perspective it's pretty much a tie. For a tie breaker lets move to my preferred genre...METAL! The genre with the worst recording quality. The genre that is as low fi as it gets in a hi fi world. I swear to be a metal band you are required to record your early albums in a tin box with a cassette recorder. Enough stalling. I'll give the slight edge to the Atriums. Why? The brightness of the BO can at times work against it when listening to the worst of metal recordings. Those tin box recordings that feature excessive gain and sibilance like no other. The BO can handle them ok but the Atriums are smoother and darker, making them just that much easier to listen to. If the metal recordings are of higher quality then I'd put the BO over the Atriums by a hair for the treble presence. Give me some Van Halen on the BO and I've got goosebumps. But as a whole I'd give the Atriums just a very slight edge overall.

That leaves the Auteur Classic (ATC). This headphone has dominated my attention since I got it at CanJam this summer. I had the Auteur in the past but back then my tastes ran as dark as it could get. The Atticus was my reigning champ, and I would have made it darker if possible. I sold it as I just didn't listen to it much. Now I'm liking more balance in my frequency response. And balance is what the ATC is all about. It's the most neutral of the ZMF lineup but far from thin or bright or lean. Actually it has a wonderful inherent warmth to it to go with such a balanced tuning. The BO in comparison has a slight V shape vs the ATC. The bass and treble are both more present on the BO, with the mids not being as forward as the ATC. The ATC mids are my favorite mids in all the ZMF lineup, period. Plus the ATC has biocellulose drivers, like the Atriums. It has that wonderful wetness I crave. When I compare the ATC and BO there's two factors at play that really alter my rankings of them. If the music calls for big bass to drive the beat, I tend to gravitate towards the BO. It's bass levels are just bigger and more engaging most of the time to me. But where the ATC counters is with specifically guitars and vocals, both of which resides mostly in the mids. And I did say the mids of the ATC are my personal fav, didn't I? So you can see where this is going, the ATC grabs my attention more for a lot of metal and singer/songwriter stuff. I give the slight advantage to the ATC here, by a hair.

A good illustration was one evening while comparing the BO and ATC, I hit a few of my favorite metal test tracks from Testament. They have decent overall recording quality with Chuck Billy having a wonderful thick and gruff voice. He used to be a screamer but in the more modern albums goes with traditional vocals. And the ATC just grabbed me. The bass hit hard enough that I wasn't missing the BO, and Chuck sounded so menacing and powerful, i was enthralled. Then came the solos. The ATC has wonderful treble extension to go with those perfect mids, and I was hooked listening. I forced myself to move to the BO a few times, but it wasn't as smooth and engaging as the ATC. I stopped comparing them and spent 3 hours going through Testament's album catalog. Despite the ATC being less bassy and leaner overall, my enjoyment was greater with the overall performance vs the BO.

So there you have it, the BO sits near the top of my lineup, within striking distance of #1. Ask me tomorrow, after I spend the day today with the BO and Jinx amp, and I might put it over the top. That's how close it is. It's a wonderful headphone with IMO the next generation of tuning from ZMF. There's a balance to the tuning that's remarkable. I give it my biggest compliment by purchasing it. If Zach will sell me the demo unit I'll keep it. If I have to return it, I'll be buying one shortly.
thanks for such an excellent breakdown of each headphone. I have the AuC and love it and I have the BC and love it too. Given your analysis here, I am now anticipating my incoming BO even more!
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 2:59 PM Post #717 of 1,316
Jan 13, 2025 at 4:42 PM Post #718 of 1,316
Ok Atriums, and i'll address both the AO and AC as one, as my thoughts on them vs the BO go the same way. This is a tough one, they're different sounding. Being biocellulose drivers, they have a wetter, thicker, more euphonic and warm tuning. At times I like that over the drier and brighter BO. But then the BO's even tunning at times trumps the Atriums for general listening. From a generalist perspective it's pretty much a tie. For a tie breaker lets move to my preferred genre...METAL! The genre with the worst recording quality. The genre that is as low fi as it gets in a hi fi world. I swear to be a metal band you are required to record your early albums in a tin box with a cassette recorder. Enough stalling. I'll give the slight edge to the Atriums. Why? The brightness of the BO can at times work against it when listening to the worst of metal recordings. Those tin box recordings that feature excessive gain and sibilance like no other. The BO can handle them ok but the Atriums are smoother and darker, making them just that much easier to listen to. If the metal recordings are of higher quality then I'd put the BO over the Atriums by a hair for the treble presence. Give me some Van Halen on the BO and I've got goosebumps. But as a whole I'd give the Atriums just a very slight edge overall.
Thank you for this awesome comparison! I have a Jotunheim 2 and Lyr+ as well. The Atrium Closed are my ideal next purchase provided my Bokeh Open set the stage as I dip my toes into the ZMF water. I'm also going to buy a bigger tube amp but alas I keep changing my mind.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 4:49 PM Post #719 of 1,316
Thank you for this awesome comparison! I have a Jotunheim 2 and Lyr+ as well. The Atrium Closed are my ideal next purchase provided my Bokeh Open set the stage as I dip my toes into the ZMF water. I'm also going to buy a bigger tube amp but alas I keep changing my mind.
You don't have to go nuts to try tubes. The Schiit Valhalla 2 has recently been discontinued and selling cheap. It's not as warm as traditional tube amps but still sounds great with ZMF. Another option is a Bottlehead Crack with speedball. Assuming you don't mind some soldering. Its an incredible tube amp especially if you can build it yourself. So cheap for such performance. If you buy preassembled of course the price goes up significantly. I've had my eyes on these amps from Europe. The H5 seems like a Bottlehead Crack.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/Eufonika?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1006708089&from_page=listing

I've not read a bad review yet. I've been toying with getting one, but at the moment I'm in amp overload. I need to sell off a lot before taking on more amps haha. If that Woo WA3 is still out there in the classifieds I'd jump on it immediately. The WA3 is insanely good with the Atriums.
 
Jan 13, 2025 at 5:11 PM Post #720 of 1,316
Thanks.
I'm still hesitating between the Bokeh and the Hifiman HE-1000 Stealth... Without testing it's difficult to decide.
I was hesitating a lot if I had to order HE-1000se already having Atrium Open. Especially because I don't like bright headphones. But I did. And now I can't say which one of two I prefer more. Both are perfect in their own manner. So I think you can't go wrong with anyone. But I would say that Bokeh should be more universal because of more `bodied' sound than Hifimans. Bokeh has much more sound tuning options so it will be easier for you to found your sound. Also build quality and aesthetic for me also are on Bokeh side. And if you don't have any rush in buying headphones now - later this year I think will be some limited options of Bokeh that can look more interesting than current batch.
 

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