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Oct 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM Post #28,006 of 42,299
i didnt notice any more tightness on wa22 than wa2, just less bass

only thing i noticed was the bigger soundstage and more forward mids which os part of the wa22 sound signature
 
Oct 11, 2013 at 9:27 PM Post #28,007 of 42,299
Perfect or perceived perfection-
 
Let us not forget valuable lessons learned from Greek Architecture: compensating for illusions (the entasis effect).  Is it possible for an amp that uses perfect parts for the job, have a presentation that sounds anything but? When voicing an amp, a good designer would know when and where to compensate to get closer to that perfect presentation.
 
Oct 11, 2013 at 9:33 PM Post #28,008 of 42,299
All I know is I like what I hear so I keep coming back for more. :)
 
Oct 11, 2013 at 9:40 PM Post #28,009 of 42,299
  All I know is I like what I hear so I keep coming back for more. :)

I'm with you on that 
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Oct 11, 2013 at 11:08 PM Post #28,010 of 42,299
  yeah i think the WA22 isn't gonna work out for me. tried GEC 6AS7G / 596 / and both the smoked glass rca and the tung sol 6f8g and even the treasures. its just not working out. substituting the eml, the tung sol 7236, the 5998, or the 6080wb was different, but it just feels like the power tubes and the rectifiers aren't really being taken full advantage of. i don't hear the uber clarity and crispness of the 596, nor the beautiful tone of the GEC, and the bass isn't really what i want. the soundstage is huge but its too much for me on HD 800 and the T1 doesn't sound like itself.
 
i think the 6sn7 sound just isn't for me or the improvements/changes in the WA22 vs the WA2 weren't enough for me. i want to buy WA2 again, but then i won't have an amp for 5U4G tubes, so i'm gonna talk to glenn soon and see what he can do.

You really should try a pair of Sylvania Chrome domes(cheap) or the overly chromed domes(cheap too)  Xcalibur referred to in the 6SN7 thread before you give up. I thought the apex peak/volcano was bass light and would never match the WA6SE for punch and extension until I stuck one those with the messy chrome paint jobs in.
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 3:33 AM Post #28,011 of 42,299
But bassy tubes tend to be less resolving. I want the good tubes to have decent bass as well.

Also im thinking of buying that new audeze that just came out....
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 9:29 AM Post #28,012 of 42,299
After reading the WA22 impressions, I am curious about where the Cavalli LG fits in sound wise. Say vs. the 5LE, Leben or Glenn custom. There are so many upgrade paths that it can be a bit confusing. I am happy with my WA6-SE but it is never too early to start dreaming :)
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 9:37 AM Post #28,013 of 42,299
But bassy tubes tend to be less resolving. I want the good tubes to have decent bass as well.

Also im thinking of buying that new audeze that just came out....


I find them to be very transparent and resolving of detail. The treble is also very extended, but not tipped up like the ken rads. However, not as euphonic on female vocals like the 6SNGT.
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 10:29 AM Post #28,014 of 42,299
i didnt notice any more tightness on wa22 than wa2, just less bass

only thing i noticed was the bigger soundstage and more forward mids which os part of the wa22 sound signature

 
I find this strange. But then the only high impedance headphone I have now is the HD650. I definitely feel the bass is tighter and punchier with the WA22, regardless of tubes used. I am rally getting curious about this - if someone drops in and lend me a T1 I will definitely try it out. 
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM Post #28,015 of 42,299
After reading DG's impression with WA22, I really think once your amp reached certain point it is more like difference sound signature and personal preference than a major upgrade. The law of diminish of return start to kick in...

We are all after the perfection but is there a real perfect amp out there?
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM Post #28,016 of 42,299
After reading DG's impression with WA22, I really think once your amp reached certain point it is more like difference sound signature and personal preference than a major upgrade. The law of diminish of return start to kick in...

We are all after the perfection but is there a real perfect amp out there?

 
So true. There is a level where there is enough detail and transparency at all frequencies that what really matters is the other stuff..... 
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 3:52 PM Post #28,017 of 42,299
   
So true. There is a level where there is enough detail and transparency at all frequencies that what really matters is the other stuff..... 

well said, 
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM Post #28,018 of 42,299
  And, for lovers of Woo Audio, their new desktop amp uses tubes for a power supply and gets rid of that big brick. I'm old and can't always bring names to mind. But you all know it as the glass enclosed amp/dac. It is fantastic as well - as are their mono-blocks.

This is a quote from someone at CanJam.  Does anyone know what he's referring to?  I'm assuming he's talking about the WA7 but I have not heard of any changes to the power supply.
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 6:49 PM Post #28,019 of 42,299
Anyone ever buy from www.thetubeco.com? The prices are cheaper than The Tube Depot or the Tube Store, but something tells me that we may be getting the domestic "seconds" not meant for export. 
 
Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM Post #28,020 of 42,299
  Anyone ever buy from www.thetubeco.com? The prices are cheaper than The Tube Depot or the Tube Store, but something tells me that we may be getting the domestic "seconds" not meant for export. 

they dont have a big selection. where are the EZ80, 6080/5998, ?
 

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