Why so many people hate Radiohead?
Jul 11, 2006 at 5:26 AM Post #76 of 81

Originally Posted by Enverxis
Sunn O))) and Boris are the Drone innovators ....

Thank you! Finally, somebody in this thiread who is right!
Jul 11, 2006 at 8:50 AM Post #77 of 81

Originally Posted by Lisa
I did a google search, they said it was something they did as an intro in a show or something. And I guess that if you like it, a lot of people would, so why not put it on the album.

Indeed, that would make a very good intro for a concert, and they probably used it for the "Ok Computer" tour.

Anyway, my comments were pure speculation, I appreciate some of the things Radiohead did, but I don't consider myself as a fan. "Ok Computer" is my favorite (and in particular the song Paranoid Android), and I like some parts of "Kid A" and "Amnesiac" (although I think they could have done one great album instead of those two). I don't know the other albums that well yet.

By the way, about the sound of these records, does anyone else has a bit of difficulty listening to "Kid A" and "Amnesiac"? By that I mean they sound very "fuzzy" and kind of sibilant to me, especially "Amnesiac". It's even more evident after listening to "OK Computer" which sound very clear and normal in comparison. It's probably the sound the group wanted, and not some loudness/compression problem though. I usually don't have this kind of problem (most of the music I like has a lot of noise), but I'm not sure what's up with these two.
Jul 11, 2006 at 2:05 PM Post #78 of 81

Originally Posted by Aman
Thank you! Finally, somebody in this thiread who is right!

I take it you don't think that would include you? I don't really even like Radiohead, but you definitely take the prize for having the most overblown view of one's own musical tastes. But, I can certainly respect that you stand firm in your opinions.
Jul 12, 2006 at 3:58 AM Post #79 of 81
dont know chords? stay on one note the whole song? have you heard "Paranoid Android"? see i'm not gonna argue people opinions. but when you start pointing out stuff that just isn't true.

sunn o))) and radiohead are 2 very different kinds of music. comparing them is just silly.

they are just playing music. music that they like..that they hope other people will like. and if it bothers you that people like them..or if it bothers you that the people who like them defend them in weird ways..believe me. there's a lot of better things you could dedicate your time to.
Jul 12, 2006 at 9:26 PM Post #80 of 81
Dave Matthews described the song How to Disappear Completely, from Kid A, something like this (I'm paraphrasing...) "It's like you're running for your life through a jungle of razors, and you just keep pressing on an on, and all of a sudden, just when you're about to give up, you run out onto a cliff, overlooking the most beautiful sunset you've ever witnessed."

Now, I don't care if you don't like Radiohead, or Dave for that matter, but you have to give credit where credit is due. Dave Matthews knows his stuff about music, and if can describe that song with such passion (he loved the whole album as well) then I can't help but think that Radiohead has something good here. Anyone who's heard it knows exactly what I'm talking about...it slowly builds from a high note Yorke is singing (which carries through the rest of this), into a bunch of dissonant chords and effects coming from all angles, and all of a sudden the dissonance resolves and all you have left is Yorke's voice carrying a pitch-perfect tone that brings shivers to me every time.

Even if you hate Radiohead, do yourself a favor and listen to that song, and you should be able to appreciate Radiohead's "unused" talent afterward.
Jul 13, 2006 at 4:46 AM Post #81 of 81

Originally Posted by redshifter
actually a common criticism of beethoven is he never wrote a melody. i can see what they are saying, even if it is not strictly true.

Really, I can easily remember the opening (and reoccuring theme/tune) of each of his symphonies - from the Pastoral to each section of the 9th. To me, when you write a piece of music and keep bringing back a theme/phrase/melody/riff that's what crafting popular music is all about.

It's kinda said, but I recently have come to the realization that any memorable symphony/song/hymn all work off the same same principle that makes an annoying commerical jingle take hold of you. Take 8-10 notes, rinse, repeat and you've got 99% of all popular music ... ALL music. It's generally a simple, self-contained phrase which, if well crafted, sticks in a listener's head. Layer it into an extended piece and you've got a memorable symphony; fit it into 4 minutes of music and you've got a hit; run it into the public's brain and you've got "The Macarena", the "James Bond Theme" or the "DoubleMint Gum Jingle". Conceptually, I sadly put place "The Hokey Pokey" right beside any of Mozarts greatest works in essence, the only difference being that great musical genuis can expand, embelish and create lovely shadings through pure musicianship out of the original...jingle. And based on this assumption, I really feel that Beethoven wrote "hooks" to no lesser extent or greater effect than Neil Sedaka, The Troggs or any Tin Pan alley specialist worth his salt ever did.

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