Why does everyone hate the Audigys?
Jul 31, 2004 at 8:11 PM Post #16 of 52
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Originally Posted by hybridamp
The problem with me giving you any major advise is that luckily we are each unique, otherwise we would all be stuck with females that look identical and life would be NO fun at all! lol


My point was that I wanted to hear someone's opinion as to what they heard and why it was bad compared to an eMu or a Revo. Yeah, that's subjective, but that's far better than telling me that it's because it resamples to whatever kilohertz or that the voltage is fluctuates. That's not what I'm listening to. Explaining technically WHY it sounds bad is great for getting to the root of the problem, but I want to read about WHAT you're actual hearing experience is that makes you say it sounds bad.

Let me put it this way. With cars, you can read all about horsepower figures, torque figures, and skidpad results, but the bottom line is how the car feels when you're behind the wheel. No amount of numbers and test results are going to tell you that. And that's why a subjective opinion matters. It gives a rough idea of what's happening and if I read several reviews saying similar things, I can piece together whether or not it's worth my time and money based on that. It's not an exact science or the end all be all to everything, but it is a starting point.
 
Jul 31, 2004 at 9:14 PM Post #17 of 52
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Originally Posted by gloco
I personally have a P4 2.4Ghz and a 9700 pro card, i have no worries about framerates and the such.


You will for Doom 3 and Half-Life 2.
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~KS
 
Jul 31, 2004 at 10:53 PM Post #19 of 52
Dude, when you have to send the Audigy 2 to a specialist to make some mods in order to improve the quality, that tells me something about Creative's quality of components.
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I have to agree about the subjective value of sound card opinions. Usually, I never have a problem searching for the best quality products by perusing of the user ratings on review sites. But when it comes to certain products, quality takes a backset to personal preference.

For example, in researching digital camera, I've found the user ratings for all the major brands I was looking at were almost identical. Just about everyone who bought their cameras loved it, even though there were night and day differences between each brand. So it comes down to what you personally prefer, and sometimes people can be vague about their purchase (I Love it!! "Well why do you love it?" "Well cuz I just do!!") Ugh...

That being said, what I'm looking for is minimal line noise, good punchy but controlled bass, midrange that doesn't end up receding into the background, and 5.1 support for surround sound speakers.

That said, does the EMU 1212M support a 5.1 setup?

Anyone remember the Creative AWE64 Gold by the way? That was the first and best sound card I ever used. When I upgraded to the Audigy 1 I thought things would just get better from there. Boy was I wrong. I would have put the AWE64 right back in if the motherboard I upgraded to still had an ISA slot (remember those slots??)

I thought getting new cans would help. Nope. So now maybe another sound card upgrade (and the addition of an amp) will finally bring me back to those AWE64 days of bliss.
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Aug 1, 2004 at 3:32 PM Post #22 of 52
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Originally Posted by Bluestreak
That said, does the EMU 1212M support a 5.1 setup?


Nope. The EMU is a stereo-only card, though you could always use a card like the M-Audio Revolution 7.1 for your speakers and the EMU 0404 (half the price of the 1212m while still retaining 90% of the sound quality) for your headphones.

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Anyone remember the Creative AWE64 Gold by the way? That was the first and best sound card I ever used. When I upgraded to the Audigy 1 I thought things would just get better from there. Boy was I wrong. I would have put the AWE64 right back in if the motherboard I upgraded to still had an ISA slot (remember those slots??)


The same thing happened to me "upgrading" from a Soundblaster 16-Value ISA (it was so old it that it came with a CD-ROM drive, back before computers could use CD-ROM's without special adapter cards, and so it had a CD-ROM data port on it) to a generic AC'97 card.

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I thought getting new cans would help. Nope. So now maybe another sound card upgrade (and the addition of an amp) will finally bring me back to those AWE64 days of bliss.
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Garbage in, garbage out. You should notice a definate improvement in sound quality with a source upgrade.
 
Aug 3, 2004 at 5:29 AM Post #23 of 52
My friend has an audigy series card and says that the bass is very clouded, muddy, and not very clear, and this bleeds up into the midrange. The highs he claims are OK.

Cheers,
Geek
 
Aug 3, 2004 at 10:27 AM Post #24 of 52
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Originally Posted by Geek
My friend has an audigy series card and says that the bass is very clouded, muddy, and not very clear, and this bleeds up into the midrange. The highs he claims are OK.

Cheers,
Geek


For the most part, that is how it sounds to me too.
 
Aug 3, 2004 at 12:57 PM Post #25 of 52
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Originally Posted by lan
I don't think the emu uses that much CPU power. I'd like to see those results also.


I don't know how to run a test, but when I use the windows task manager it stays right around 30% cpu usage. That seems a bit high to me and would definitely affect frame rates if I used it for gaming. There must be something wrong in my setup.
I suppose I should try kernal streaming and see how that does.
BTW, I'm not intentionally thread crapping, just answering a question.
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Aug 5, 2004 at 12:21 AM Post #26 of 52
I love my Audigy 2 zs. It's a fantastic sound card for the PC.

Sure it wont match my hifi in terms of sound quality, but it's not suppose to.
I dont really use my PC for music anyways, mainly for watching anime and gaming.
 
Aug 5, 2004 at 12:34 AM Post #27 of 52
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Originally Posted by Ctn
I love my Audigy 2 zs. It's a fantastic sound card for the PC.

Sure it wont match my hifi in terms of sound quality, but it's not suppose to.
I dont really use my PC for music anyways, mainly for watching anime and gaming.


Most people, who come to this forum, are interested in music, not anime or gaming
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Aug 5, 2004 at 12:36 AM Post #28 of 52
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Originally Posted by Asmo
Most people, who come to this forum, are interested in music, not anime or gaming
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On the PC ?
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20 dollar cdp + dac + amp + headphones will give you much better results.
 
Aug 5, 2004 at 1:04 AM Post #29 of 52
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Originally Posted by Ctn
On the PC ?
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20 dollar cdp + dac + amp + headphones will give you much better results.


....

What kind of DAC are we talking about here?

This seems like a silly thing to say considering the quality of hifi pc soundcards these days.

Of course an amp is always part of this equation.

PC + Soundcard with bit perfect digi out + dac + amp will give you better results with your music collection at your fingertips.
 
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