Why do some of yall look down on the HD280s?
Dec 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 62

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I would definitely steer clear of the 280's. I owned them for a little while and sold them. I found them to be very uncomfortable and they feel very cheap to me. The sound was very bland to me and just were not very fun to listen to especially with alternative and rock.


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I would have to say the HD 280's, very uncomfortable and they have a boring sound with very little bass response imo.


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the hd280 is bass light, uncomfortable, and breaks a lot


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MY thoughts on the HD280 are already well documented.

Awful horrendous stinking piles of crap puts it politely. I would pick the Triport every time.


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I would agree that the HD280's are pretty awful. I make a conscious effort to deter people from them since I have realized how bad they are after hearing better phones at lower prices. I find them lacking in bass and really woolly sounding. The only thing they do right is isolation - which is really unmatched.


I've been looking around at some of yalls opinions of the HD280s, and from what I can tell, the HD280s have no love here. I am not being condescending or preaching to yall
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, I WANT to know if what I'm experiencing from my HD280s is "bland", and if so, how deep does the rabbit hole really go?

I've owned my pair for 3 years now and we have been through a lot together (Paid $79.95 shipped. These can still easily be found for around the $80 mark). At first, yes I could see where some of the negativity was coming from: 30 minutes and and I was thinking a had made a horrible decision (flat, piercing highs, no bass, uncomfortable, coiled cable, was my head to small? turns out I actually had to extend the arms to fit me :O )... but I coped. 3 months after ownership, I learned about the tac-mod (from here of course), and did that mod. Also during that period, I was only driving the headphones with a Creative Live! 24bit 7.1 soundcard that I picked up at walmart for $20. The sound of the headphones were a little more acceptable now, no piercing highs and better bass response.

Only after a year of ownership had I really developed respect for these cans. This is also when I began thinking of all the poor souls who though you could hear the HD280s at their peak and judge them after a couple weeks of ownership or even as short as just putting them on for the first time at the guitar store. After 2 years of ownership, I had still been driving my cans with just the $20 walmart soundcard (with the nifty 'bass-boost' function enabled), through winamp. Now was the time when my HD280s really began to fit me, and I notice the build quality, AND I was still trying to figure out the 'right' eq setting for me. You really have to spend time with these headphones, making them with with you and your source (I have spent TONS of time messing with my EQ, DSPs). After two years, my headphones were still pretty much in mint condition. I had no cracking headband problem and the earpads had no tears in it. Maybe I'm more careful than others? Doubtful...

Fast forward to today. My current setup is as follows: Foobar2k (heavily EQ'ed, resampling, bass-boost through the 'channel-mixer' DSP, ASIO out)->USB Creative X-Fi 5.1->DC-powered OPA2227 CMOY amp->Logitech g51 (there appears to be an amp in the circuit)->HD280's. At times, I think to myself "there is absolutely no way an expensive setup can beat mine by much" (talking bout the headphones, not the speakers
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). Yes, I just compared my cheap setup to your multi-thousand dollar setups. I have the accurate high highs. I like my mids, they don't hurt my ears, I can probably hear everything the producer wanted me to hear (unless is some low quality files), and it just sounds 'right' to me. I also have strong, full bass when I want. I mean like head shaking, shake-the-earwax-out-of-your-ear bass. As for the soundstage, I feel like I am right where I want to be in my music. The sound I am getting is anything but "painfully dull" and "flat". I quite often find my self being started because of certain parts of some songs or a move where the sounds is so life-like I could swear someone were right there with me talking to me.

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I really feel that is misleading. The 280's are built like a tank and if you ask any DJ who uses them they will say the same.

The 280's are BIG, and for smaller head I could see them being uncomfortable due to the size. If they fit well when you put them on you will find them comfortable.

The Bass is only light if your source is not good. I've listened to the 280's on 3 different sources and each time I got an entirely different sound. I first had it hooked up to a $1,200 mixer and they sounded really good. I then tryied them on my desktop with no amp and they were flat as a board with no bass. I then tried them though my friend's computer that had a good audio card and they once again sounded good.


As for the music I listen to: Pretty much everything with no excessive screaming/yelling (basically emo + some types of metal), in everything from 64kpbs ogg to FLAC. crap its 3 am...

EDIT: maybe they don't hurt my head as much because I keep them stretched out on this while I'm not using them:
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Dec 16, 2009 at 9:12 AM Post #2 of 62
Lol!

You tell them....! You go tell them girl!
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They're very good if you know how to handle them as above. They didn't achieve a lifetime achievement and circle of excellence award for nuffin'
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There are more 'in your face' Sennheisers. Most listeners coming to these HD280Pros want a kind of Aiwa/Sony/Technics disco thump rocking sound, and not analytical detail. I still keep mine, but don't use them anyway as much as I could
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Dec 16, 2009 at 9:16 AM Post #3 of 62
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Foobar2k (heavily EQ'ed, resampling, bass-boost through the 'channel-mixer' DSP, ASIO out)



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...lol......I don't think you're listening to the 280s anymore....

They were one of my first set of cans after joining HF...Not bad at all...I remember when I put them up for sale here, they went very fast...



Enjoy....
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Dec 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM Post #4 of 62
Nice thread, good for you OP, glad you like em, never heard them myself though, I'm too busy looking down at ya with my HD800's on. In all honesty at the end of the day if you get enjoyment from whatever rocks your boat stick with it.
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM Post #6 of 62
I am an HD280 fan. I have two pair in front of me. I've gotten rid of three pair of phones since I got my first HD280's. The HD280's are comfortable on my head. The isolation is as good as any. That being said, I don't use them as much since I got the Denon D7000's.
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM Post #7 of 62
I first auditioned the 280 and thought they were nice cans for the money. I then listened too and ended up buying the AKG 701 for more money. I liked the 380 but thought them too dark and closed in for my preference. They are nice cans for the money
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM Post #8 of 62
I had mine for about a year before I got something else. I'm very careful/gentle with my headphones yet mine had problems with both the headband plastic breaking and the internal wiring failing. Maybe their quality has improved since then, though, since I got my pair around 2003. I never had any major qualms with the sound signature.
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I'm happy that you've had a better experience than I did with them, and I hope others do as well!
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 3:38 PM Post #9 of 62
The HD280 Pro was really my first venture into the full size arena. I really liked them alot. I did notice that after about 200 hours, they did change up a bit. Which I liked. I did find them to be uncomfortable at first. They are VERY tight on your head. I don't have a huge cranium, so that wasn't the issue. They are just built snug. I took some pliers and bent the headband a little and that fixed the issue. I didn't lose any of the sound blocking either.

Here's where I lost interest in my 280's. I stepped up and bought the Denon AD2000. Once I listened to that headphone for a while it became clear to me that the sound of the 280 pro wasn't really very good (to me). The bass on the 280's sounded very manufactured (if that makes any sense). I do still use my 280's but only when I am playing guitar and I need to plug in to my amp so I don't drive my wife crazy.
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM Post #10 of 62
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Nice thread, good for you OP, glad you like em, never heard them myself though, I'm too busy looking down at ya with my HD800's on. In all honesty at the end of the day if you get enjoyment from whatever rocks your boat stick with it.



Uhhhh~! Agggggggghh!!! Aaarrrrrghhh!! Ouchhhh!!!

Now you've gone and really hurt my feelings! :p

I think I'll crawl back into the gutter and listen to the HD280s with a mini-disc. Hell, there's even an original BANGLES 'Greatest Hits' on original minidisc on the internet auction now. I might even be desperate enough to bid just to console myself. *sniff*
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM Post #12 of 62
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cyanide and happiness! high 5.



I don't recognise the album song title.

Is this one of your own soundtracks?
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Dec 16, 2009 at 4:57 PM Post #13 of 62
I bought these as my first real pair of headphones, before I discovered Head Fi. I soon discovered that these headphones sounded lifeless unless eq'ed compared to many other headphones. yes their isolation is great, and they could be driven from an iPod, but I soon sold them and moved on.
 
Dec 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM Post #14 of 62
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Fast forward to today. My current setup is as follows: Foobar2k (heavily EQ'ed, resampling, bass-boost through the 'channel-mixer' DSP, ASIO out)


Yikes. I'm glad you like your HD280s, but IMO if you're mucking with your source THIS much you've answered your own question about why a lot of people here think that they suck.
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