Palpatine
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Sigh... another cable thread.
Originally Posted by Palpatine /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sigh... another cable thread. |
Originally Posted by nullstring /img/forum/go_quote.gif they make a huge audible difference >_< |
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO /img/forum/go_quote.gif Huge? Huge to me would be unamped vs amped on my HD650. Huge would be comparing my HD650 to my AD1000. That's a huge difference. My experiences with recabling says it's a minor improvement at best. The HD580 I have sounds a little clearer with a better cable. Not a OMG HUGE DIFFERENCE. We are all entitled to our opinions but to say cables make a HUGE difference is rubbish to me. To say it makes a difference would be alright. To say it makes a difference for a price I'm happy to pay is alright. To say the difference is only small but an improvement is an improvement after all, would be fine. Not HUGE. |
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO /img/forum/go_quote.gif This thread has gone to the crapper rather fast. o___O |
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO /img/forum/go_quote.gif Huge? Huge to me would be unamped vs amped on my HD650. Huge would be comparing my HD650 to my AD1000. That's a huge difference. My experiences with recabling says it's a minor improvement at best. The HD580 I have sounds a little clearer with a better cable. Not a OMG HUGE DIFFERENCE. We are all entitled to our opinions but to say cables make a HUGE difference is rubbish to me. To say it makes a difference would be alright. To say it makes a difference for a price I'm happy to pay is alright. To say the difference is only small but an improvement is an improvement after all, would be fine. Not HUGE. |
The Cord and Plug The cord wires are made of 99.9999% pure, linear-crystal oxygen-free copper to prevent signal loss during transference. A durable, soft silicon insulates the wires, and the insulation is coated in 100 % pure double-woven silk. The OFC plug is double-plated; once with rhodium to prevent signal loss, and the second time with gold to prevent sound quality deterioration from imperfect contact. |
Originally Posted by Graphicism /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's a mathematical equation. Amped $200 ÷ unamped $0 + recable $20 ÷ stock cable $0 = ≈ same difference Another way of looking at it would be that a $20 cable makes a difference whereas a $20 amp likely would not. A $200 amp would make a bigger difference than a $20 cable but at 10x the price at least is it justifiably huge in price comparison? Confused yet? |
Originally Posted by nullstring /img/forum/go_quote.gif well, sure, ok, I didn't say HUGE, I said "huge." Everything in audio is subtle. And to fight against everyone saying everything is significant, I used the word huge. The point being, the D1001 sound very different with a new cable. They change the characteristics of the phone. The mid hump is flattened, the treble is extended, the headphone is all around more detailed, and the bass is not muddy anymore, and is replaced by tight, high impact bass (too strong for me at times =/) http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/den...-d2000-335557/ He is probably over emphasizing the differences... but I haven't heard the D2000, so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they sound like 90% of an unamped D2000.. since amping does little for the D1001. I am not really a believer in those expensive aftermarket cables. You shouldn't need 18 AWG cables for your headphones to sound like they should. However, the cable in the D1001 is horribly poor. After dinner, if you want, I can take pictures on just how small these cables are. In this case.. and only in this case, I think that cables can make a "huge" difference. |
Originally Posted by nullstring /img/forum/go_quote.gif well, sure, ok, I didn't say HUGE, I said "huge." Everything in audio is subtle. And to fight against everyone saying everything is significant, I used the word huge. The point being, the D1001 sound very different with a new cable. They change the characteristics of the phone. The mid hump is flattened, the treble is extended, the headphone is all around more detailed, and the bass is not muddy anymore, and is replaced by tight, high impact bass (too strong for me at times =/) http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/den...-d2000-335557/ He is probably over emphasizing the differences... but I haven't heard the D2000, so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they sound like 90% of an unamped D2000.. since amping does little for the D1001. I am not really a believer in those expensive aftermarket cables. You shouldn't need 18 AWG cables for your headphones to sound like they should. However, the cable in the D1001 is horribly poor. After dinner, if you want, I can take pictures on just how small these cables are. In this case.. and only in this case, I think that cables can make a "huge" difference. |