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Why are flagship headphones so expensive now?

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  1. Whitigir
    Because it sound good!
     
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  2. Nani900
    What about Shure?, the 1540/1840 are near £400 and those are there flagship over heads?. Seem's like price depends on the company/brand that anything sound wise.
     
  3. FullCircle
    Boutique = low volume = high cost builds

    Full Brass CNC Housings
    Black rhodium and rose gold plated

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  4. ruhenheiM
    production cost alone, i still can't figure out some headphones could go near price of a full tower speaker. it's not like a $8500/pair speaker going to sell like cheese burger right? or at the very least easier to sell than $8500 headphones. some of headphone cables also reach thousand of dollars, somehow to build a super high quality cable, it'll cost just as much as to build flagship headphone...
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/goldenear-technology-triton-reference-loudspeaker


    some of the case just as silly as this:
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/lexicons-stuffs-500-oppo-bd-83-chassis-and-sells-it-350000-1
    why? because lexicon have better chassis? have better brand value? it's kinda diminish the whole point of production, r&d cost. what is the justification of that lexicon price?
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  5. FullCircle

    Home audio is a bit different, as the chances for obsolescence or replacement is less. Products that have a long product life are usually expensive, washer machines, furniture etc. One of the reasons they are priced high, is because the likelihood of a repeat customer is slim.

    An earphone, may be subject to a wash cycle (left in pants pockets and washed) dropped, lost, dog chewing etc etc, will probably be replaced. It isn't uncommon to meet people that have 3 or 4 Noble products as well, as the sound signature differs from product to product.





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  6. ruhenheiM
    yeah, i could understand that but we're talking about flagship products here, if that's the case, i have no problem with those hidden company cost, it's part of r&d or production cost. totally respectable.i don't mind paying more if it's going to have a long life but the reality now we have some of flagship headphones that are very expensive and yet few months up to 3 years later newest flagship being release or even worse some revision being release. what's up with that? at some point this a bit similar like this one

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/dawn-of-electronics/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy
     
  7. FullCircle
    Not from my perspective, seems to me competitive forces along with market demands push manufacturers to push beyond the norms.

    For example, where a Noble excells is un the areas where large companies do not want to go. 20180810_125719.jpg

    Hand applied art, you wont find that on a highly branded companies product. Our cable can hold 150 lbs, you wont find that on many highly branded product either...

    We have to spend more time, care to do more.... as this is the only way to compete when u r small.

    As boutique companies chip away trying to gain ground, you will see bigger companies try to so more as well to retain market shares

    Techs and methods will keep growing
     
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  8. chimney189
    In my opinion no IEM should cost more than a few hundred unless it's made out of pure gold or silver.
    Prices are absolutely ridiculous.

    Then again, most things are overpriced in this world.
     
  9. ruhenheiM
    i'm not saying every company just pure profit driven only, some of them really just try to push the boundaries, excellent at engineering, really **** at business or perhaps too naive, most of the times this type of company declare bankruptcy. again i don't mind paying more if it's justified, everybody have their own personal justification of course which usually ended up in an argument such as to each of their own, their own money they could do whatever they want. but if the trend is big enough it will affect the industry and soon most of the companies would follow,shift their policies just so they could stay relevant. problem is the idea is sometimes stupid... competitive is really good thing if it's healthy. i'm not sure want to call this current state of headphone industry is healthy

    just simple case. orpheus 2 vs shangrilla. both 50k. r&d cost? still make sense.production cost? one is german's made, the other is china's ( i'm assumed, i don't own any of those, so i can't really tell the label they put on their products ). i have no idea labour cost in china is similar like in german, i'm just assuming labour cost in china is cheaper than german. so please do correct me if i'm wrong
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  10. Hifiearspeakers
    Why would you put a price limit solely based on the form factor? Why shouldn’t an IEM cost more than a few hundred dollars? Because they’re small? So should any future nanotechnology only cost $200 or less? Shure has an electrostat IEM. That should only cost $200 or less regardless of the tech inside?

    While I agree that costs have gotten out of hand lately, the fact that you are trying to specifically set a ceiling on just IEM’s is rather ridiculous.
     
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  11. chimney189
    No, it's not just about form factor. I'd be interested in seeing how much manufacturers are charging per hour of work, materials, R&D, packaging, etc.
    I highly doubt that any IEM is actually worth more than a few hundred dollars.

    By the way, I'm clearly an expert in this.
    Just saying. :ksc75smile:
     
  12. flargosa
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  13. chimney189
    Maybe one day I'll start living within my means, but God sure knows that I'm not about that life yet.
     
  14. FullCircle

    Worth?

    That is subjective
     
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  15. ruhenheiM
    just like $1000 smartphone, no headphone jack. no problem, buy the dongle. most of them made by glass on their back. no problem, buy a case. no removable battery.no problem, buy a new phone.such competitive edge, totally new invention
     
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