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I'm interested in the sound quality of the X10s and have seen comparisons with the Shure SE530s but nothing with the Triples.
Which sounds better - UE Triple fi-10 or Klipsch Image X10
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I would assume that Triple.fis Vs the Klipsch Custom 3 would be a better comparison. If you're considering iems as hi profile as the triple.fis, then it makes sense to judge it with Klipsch's most hi profile.
The X10 is only expensive because of the technology used to give it it's size.
The X10 is only expensive because of the technology used to give it it's size.
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Actually I'd rather know about the X10s. I'm certain the Custom-3s are outstanding but I'm not concerned with those at the moment.
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And the bass, this baby is a bass heavy tiny object....
But is true to compare multiple driver units with dedicated drivers for bass freq and mids and highs, and circuits inside, to a single driver units, is not fair, evne though if this serve as a support, my FreQ's three drivers were returned, and I'm still a happy Sleek and Klipsch owner...
| Originally Posted by TJ Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif I would assume that Triple.fis Vs the Klipsch Custom 3 would be a better comparison. If you're considering iems as hi profile as the triple.fis, then it makes sense to judge it with Klipsch's most hi profile. The X10 is only expensive because of the technology used to give it it's size. |
And the bass, this baby is a bass heavy tiny object....
But is true to compare multiple driver units with dedicated drivers for bass freq and mids and highs, and circuits inside, to a single driver units, is not fair, evne though if this serve as a support, my FreQ's three drivers were returned, and I'm still a happy Sleek and Klipsch owner...
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From the demo set I tried few months back, I'll like to think that X10 is expensive because of the technology used to give it it's sound. It proves to me that you don't need multiple transducers to produce a good sound. One is enough if the company do their R&D right.
| Originally Posted by TJ Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif The X10 is only expensive because of the technology used to give it it's size. |
From the demo set I tried few months back, I'll like to think that X10 is expensive because of the technology used to give it it's sound. It proves to me that you don't need multiple transducers to produce a good sound. One is enough if the company do their R&D right.
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Not to mention the Etymotic ER4s are single driver phones and are praised for their sound quality.
| Originally Posted by ClieOS /img/forum/go_quote.gif From the demo set I tried few months back, I'll like to think that X10 is expensive because of the technology used to give it it's sound. It proves to me that you don't need multiple transducers to produce a good sound. One is enough if the company do their R&D right. |
Not to mention the Etymotic ER4s are single driver phones and are praised for their sound quality.
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In your opinion, how much better does the Custom-3s sound to the Custom-2s?
| Originally Posted by TJ Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif I would assume that Triple.fis Vs the Klipsch Custom 3 would be a better comparison. If you're considering iems as hi profile as the triple.fis, then it makes sense to judge it with Klipsch's most hi profile. The X10 is only expensive because of the technology used to give it it's size. |
In your opinion, how much better does the Custom-3s sound to the Custom-2s?
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Well of coarse, the tech is envolved in it's sound. I was responding to why its the most expensive of the Klipschs by paraphrasing what one of the Klipsch reps said in the Klipsch Sponsor Forum. In order to have the new technology produce the "Image sound" at its size, is expensive!
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I've never heard the Custom-2s, I went straight for the 3s. But I'd IMAGINE that since they are single drivered, they'd sound simular to the Image, but with less bass. The Image should provide the best bass because it has an easier fit for most people due to it's size.
I should be getting the Triple.Fi soon, sometime next week, and I'll be able to compare those to the Custom-3s.
| Originally Posted by ClieOS /img/forum/go_quote.gif From the demo set I tried few months back, I'll like to think that X10 is expensive because of the technology used to give it it's sound. It proves to me that you don't need multiple transducers to produce a good sound. One is enough if the company do their R&D right. |
Well of coarse, the tech is envolved in it's sound. I was responding to why its the most expensive of the Klipschs by paraphrasing what one of the Klipsch reps said in the Klipsch Sponsor Forum. In order to have the new technology produce the "Image sound" at its size, is expensive!
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| Originally Posted by lewislink /img/forum/go_quote.gif In your opinion, how much better does the Custom-3s sound to the Custom-2s? |
I've never heard the Custom-2s, I went straight for the 3s. But I'd IMAGINE that since they are single drivered, they'd sound simular to the Image, but with less bass. The Image should provide the best bass because it has an easier fit for most people due to it's size.
I should be getting the Triple.Fi soon, sometime next week, and I'll be able to compare those to the Custom-3s.
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You meant to say the Custom-2s have Balanced Dual drivers but made a typo. I do it all the time.
| Originally Posted by TJ Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've never heard the Custom-2s, I went straight for the 3s. But I'd IMAGINE that since they are single drivered, they'd sound simular to the Image, but with less bass. The Image should provide the best bass because it has an easier fit for most people due to it's size. I should be getting the Triple.Fi soon, sometime next week, and I'll be able to compare those to the Custom-3s. |
You meant to say the Custom-2s have Balanced Dual drivers but made a typo. I do it all the time.
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Opps I actually did forget that they were dual drivered.
The difference is in the type of drivers that it uses thats worth $100 less than the Custom 3s.
The Custom-3 sound awsome once you get the right fit, that is the challenge of the whole Custom Series though. I actually found better results with replacing the Klipsch oval shaped tip for the Shure E4 tips.
The Custom-3 sound awsome once you get the right fit, that is the challenge of the whole Custom Series though. I actually found better results with replacing the Klipsch oval shaped tip for the Shure E4 tips.
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If you are referring to the Shure olives, you and me both. I find the Shure olive to deliver the best sound from my Custom-1s.
| Originally Posted by TJ Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif Opps I actually did forget that they were dual drivered.
The Custom-3 sound awsome once you get the right fit, that is the challenge of the whole Custom Series though. I actually found better results with replacing the Klipsch oval shaped tip for the Shure E4 comply tips. |
If you are referring to the Shure olives, you and me both. I find the Shure olive to deliver the best sound from my Custom-1s.
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I just received a pair of Image X10's on Friday and thanks to a friend had a week long audition with a Comply tip clad pair of Triple.fi's. Note that the tip was a Comply tip which from reports changes the sound/balance of the Tri.fi's a bit.
I absolutely loved the Triple.fi's bass, it's deep powerful yet tight and textured. I also loved how spacious the sound seemed. On the downside the mids seemed recessed and could be overshadowed by the bass while the highs were decent they came across as rather pedestrian. With the Complys at least they weren't particularly bright and a bit smeared making things like sibilance a bit more noticeable.
I've only had limited time with the X10's so far but my impressions so far very positive. These along with the Sleeks make a strong case for single driver IEM's. While it might be harder to get full range from a single armature they do have the advantage of not needing crossovers which can cause their own problems and I expect some of the phase issues would be lessened in a single armature as well.
Anyhow, so far I'm finding the X10's to have a really impressive bass as well, not quite the depth and texture of the Triple.fi's and it might have just a slight bit of extra bloom but it's very, very good nonetheless. I haven't quite got a handle on what's going on with the soundstaging, it's probably the most "in your head" of the higher end universals but it also seems to have decent width, height, depth and separation. Where the X10's seem to excel is they have good punch mixed with a nice tonality, the mids have a nice forward quality with slight warmth of tone. Highs are a bit laid back but they do have a nice quality and they lack any problems with sibilance.
Another thing to consider between the Image X10's and the Triple.fi's is the overall build and fit. The Triple.fi's are over the ear only while the X10's are straight down only. The Triple.fi's are rather big and hard to fit properly while the Images are small, discreet and one of, if not the most comfortable IEM's I've used. Another factor is the cables, the Triple.fi's is rather thick and unwieldy but it's replaceable and there may even be possible sonic benefits from trying something like the Westone ES cable with them. The Image's cable on the other hand is rather thin and non replaceable.
I absolutely loved the Triple.fi's bass, it's deep powerful yet tight and textured. I also loved how spacious the sound seemed. On the downside the mids seemed recessed and could be overshadowed by the bass while the highs were decent they came across as rather pedestrian. With the Complys at least they weren't particularly bright and a bit smeared making things like sibilance a bit more noticeable.
I've only had limited time with the X10's so far but my impressions so far very positive. These along with the Sleeks make a strong case for single driver IEM's. While it might be harder to get full range from a single armature they do have the advantage of not needing crossovers which can cause their own problems and I expect some of the phase issues would be lessened in a single armature as well.
Anyhow, so far I'm finding the X10's to have a really impressive bass as well, not quite the depth and texture of the Triple.fi's and it might have just a slight bit of extra bloom but it's very, very good nonetheless. I haven't quite got a handle on what's going on with the soundstaging, it's probably the most "in your head" of the higher end universals but it also seems to have decent width, height, depth and separation. Where the X10's seem to excel is they have good punch mixed with a nice tonality, the mids have a nice forward quality with slight warmth of tone. Highs are a bit laid back but they do have a nice quality and they lack any problems with sibilance.
Another thing to consider between the Image X10's and the Triple.fi's is the overall build and fit. The Triple.fi's are over the ear only while the X10's are straight down only. The Triple.fi's are rather big and hard to fit properly while the Images are small, discreet and one of, if not the most comfortable IEM's I've used. Another factor is the cables, the Triple.fi's is rather thick and unwieldy but it's replaceable and there may even be possible sonic benefits from trying something like the Westone ES cable with them. The Image's cable on the other hand is rather thin and non replaceable.
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This is to show how universal the UE line of canalphones are. I simply disconnected the cables from the phones and reconnected them to the other respectively. I get to wear them below the ear style while keeping the proper channel configuration.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Picture-1.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Picture-1.jpg
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What cable is that? I couldn't see the stock cable working too well for that application unless it was used like that exclusively. And I'd imagine they'd still be rather big and unwieldy in comparison to the X10's and SA6's. In fact that's one advantage the SA6's have, they can be worn either way easily, in fact it's even possible to flip the cable up over the ear with them in you ear already.
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It's an OEM cable. Our kitty destroyed the original cable so I bought a replacement from UE and they sent a clear one. The connections are universal. Here's a pic of one of the original connectors. Notice the raised line on the upper side in this pic, it indicates the inner side when connected to the phone. It's also the side that has the channel designation on it:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture005-1.jpg
| Originally Posted by elnero /img/forum/go_quote.gif What cable is that? I couldn't see the stock cable working too well for that application unless it was used like that exclusively. And I'd imagine they'd still be rather big and unwieldy in comparison to the X10's and SA6's. In fact that's one advantage the SA6's have, they can be worn either way easily, in fact it's even possible to flip the cable up over the ear with them in you ear already. |
It's an OEM cable. Our kitty destroyed the original cable so I bought a replacement from UE and they sent a clear one. The connections are universal. Here's a pic of one of the original connectors. Notice the raised line on the upper side in this pic, it indicates the inner side when connected to the phone. It's also the side that has the channel designation on it:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture005-1.jpg
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