[yfei]

Looking for a HD based lossless player with digital out, so I can use external DAC. Any new, small, good looking player has digital out? THanks!

 

[philodox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by yfei Any new, small, good looking player has digital out?

Nope.

Only the older Archos or iRiver DAP's have a digital out.

 

[Mr Do]

This one does. It plays a ton of formats including ogg vorbis and video files. I 've been keeping my eye on it waiting for it to be released in the U.S.

http://www.pvp4u.com/archives/2005/0...ack_600_f.html

 

[philodox]

That player looks very cool except for this:

"Playing time : 3hours (Video), 5 hours (Audio)"

Yikes.

 

[Great King Bowse]

Yeah, the old (and now discontinued) iRiver H140/120 has an optical out, that the same as a digital out?

 

[seeberg]

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Originally Posted by Great King Bowse Yeah, the old (and now discontinued) iRiver H140/120 has an optical out, that the same as a digital out?

Yes, an optical out is a variant of the generic "digital out" output name, technically known as SPDIF. There's also a version that goes by binary signal instead of light waves, which is coaxial digital out, this uses standard RCA cables, but can be terminated to 1/8" mono minijacks as well. They can carry the same information, but it seems that optical outs have a reliably higher quality output which isn't prone to interference. Beyond that, if you have a reciever that has an optical/coaxial digital input, you can get Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound from DVD players and multichannel music sources. It's worth taking a look at if you get the chance.
Hope that (convoluted) info helps!

,
Abe

 

[Gigabomber]

far as i know iriver is the only one. Also an audiophile level player, though won't play flac (only rios will)

 

[Mr Do]

Here is another with optical out.

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000990046137/
http://i-station.co.kr/proPage.do?url=prdI2

Unfortinately it's in Korean and yet again it is still waiting to be released in the U.S. None that I can find supports flac. If you don't mind using ogg or aac this looks to be the most promising player in my opion. Does anyone know how aac compares to ogg or flac? Any new info on the audiophile neurosis player that is being developed?

Enjoy!