[mikejungle]

i've tried the ipods, the zune, and several irivers and i still think that sony sounds the best...

this isn't me trying to assert sony's superiority. i'm wondering if i'm missing something. I think the ipod really sounds like crap, the iriver sounds pretty good, but not enough bass to appease me and the zune...i don't really remember. my sister has one.

Now i do consider myself to be a pretty bass-centric guy...i play the bass. But i don't like to be overwhelmed by it.

is there something that i'm missing?

 

[Singapura]

If you use decent material (lossless) and connect it from the lineout with a good quality ic to a a nice amplifier and good pair of IEM's an iPod doesn't sound like crap at all. Try the Crossroads MylarOne XB or the UE Super.fi EB if you're a basshead.

 

[StevenBrouwer]

I see you still haven't got any Cowon Iaudio's.They have good eq's you can get good bass out of them.

 

[poo]

The phones you use probably have more to do with the bass you will hear than the player in most cases... so what you doing in that department?

 

[mikejungle]

i was using ue super.fi 5 pro's...but lost them recently.
using the same headphones across several players led me to that result.

i liked the headphones...i don't know if i would have liked the super.fi EB's, but i haven't tried them so who knows.

and hooking up the ipod to an amp sounds a lot like stationary audio and not portable audio...

 

[katsmiles]

Quote:

is there something that i'm missing

Yes - the Sony NW-S706 or NW-A808

I had both and now just have the 808, they both have really good user and editor reviews. I had the Zen Vision: M and the Zen Touch and neither of them came close to the Sony's for SQ (to my own ears). When I bought my first Sony dap, the NW-S706, I read as many reviews as I could about it, and also about previous Sony players because I wanted to know what they'd done before, and what real users thought.

Well, I couldn't find a single negative review about sound quality. Provided any volume limiters were removed (no limiter on 706 or 808), the sound was generally raved about in just about everything I read. So I just went for the dap that seemed to have the most consistent user praise for SQ. Really happy with it, can't say the same for the software but I put up with it for the SQ