What is wrong with some people?

Sep 12, 2004 at 2:43 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 80

elrod-tom

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I live in a suburb of Detroit, in a community known for its friendliness to families with children. We have, among other things, several nice "jungle gym" parks, which provide a nice place to take your kids in the evening to run and play. Most of the kids are pretty young - 6 and under - and in fact there are rules about older kids (12 and older) not playing in the park. In short, it's intended to be a park for young kids.

Occasionally, some older kids come to the park. Frequently, they will be 12-14 year old kids who migrate over from nearby baseball fields. They run around a lot, but for the most part it's not a big deal. I often find myself asking that they settle down before someone gets hurt, and my requests are typically heeded with what sometimes appears to be an unnatural respect for authority and elders.
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Last night, some older kids (I'm guessing 16-19 yrs old) came to the park. They were sitting on the roofs of some of the play areas, on the "monkey bars" under which some kids were running, and playing on the swings (even the ones for infants). This was ridiculous, and I was about to go over and say something to some of these kids.

Then I noticed that one of them was wielding a knife...big one too, with about a 4" lock-blade. They were passing it around, waving it in the faces of their friends, throwing it in the dirt...even from 8' in the air with kids running around. Unbelievable...

Well, I wasn't going to screw around with that. I went around to as many parents as I could find until I found one with a cell phone, and had her call the police. They came over pretty quickly, and dealt with the situation quite nicely. The young man with the knife was handcuffed, and last I heard was getting a particularly ugly lecture from the policeman in charge. My understanding from talking to the other policeman was that they were going to take he and his buddies into the station - but not until he'd been given a good scare - to await the arrival of his parents.

I just can't figure out what these idiots were thinking about. Let's forget the notion that this is intended to be a park for young kids, did these idiots think waving a big knife around the same park was OK? Did they think that this sort of behavior in a crowded park filled with infants, toddlers, and very young kids - and parents with cell phones - wouldn't result in the arrival of the police?

Unbelievable....

It's at least nice to know that something like this is dealt with quickly and appropriately.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 2:58 PM Post #2 of 80
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Originally Posted by elrod-tom
I just can't figure out what these idiots were thinking about. Let's forget the notion that this is intended to be a park for young kids, did these idiots think waving a big knife around the same park was OK? Did they think that this sort of behavior in a crowded park filled with infants, toddlers, and very young kids - and parents with cell phones - wouldn't result in the arrival of the police?


They were not thinking.
Most young people have (what I perceive is) tunnel vision.
They can't think beyond what they are doing at that exact moment in time.
They can't think beyond "what will happen next".
(or sometimes what they did before.)

This is a skill (cause and effect) that more parents need to teach their kids.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:01 PM Post #3 of 80
Agreed...

I'm still quite pissed about this. Who the hell goes around waving a knife in a park filled with kids??
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Sep 12, 2004 at 3:04 PM Post #4 of 80
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Originally Posted by elrod-tom
Well, I wasn't going to screw around with that. I went around to as many parents as I could find until I found one with a cell phone, and had her call the police.

It's at least nice to know that something like this is dealt with quickly and appropriately.



It's also nice to know that there are parents like you and the lady who are willing to get involved. Many would simply gather up their kids and leave.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:22 PM Post #5 of 80
Good job elrod-tom, you did the right thing. I would have done the same thing, so good thing I didn't have to post "why didn't call the cops?".
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Nice to know the the law officers were so quick to act, sometimes this is not always the case.

What I have to wonder though is why no one else (the parents of the children that were in most danger) didn't do it before you?
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:35 PM Post #6 of 80
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Originally Posted by KR...
What I have to wonder though is why no one else (the parents of the children that were in most danger) didn't do it before you?


I'm thinking that I was among the first to notice what was going on. I like to think that anyone else would have acted the same way.

Maybe some folks figured that it was just a bunch of dumb kids and that so long as they were ignored it was OK. My thoughts were that you don't wave a knife around in a park full of kids unless you want the police to arrive. I wasn't so much concerned for my kids - though that was a concern - as I was outraged at the fact that these kids were behaving in such an idiotic and potentially dangerous fashion. Who the hell screws around with a knife in front of young kids? They had to know better that that.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:37 PM Post #7 of 80
I would say about 75% of young people are stupid. I know, I am one. I've seen teenagers do things you couldn't even imagine.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:44 PM Post #8 of 80
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Originally Posted by elrod-tom
Who the hell goes around waving a knife in a park filled with kids??
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There sure are a lot of brain dead idiots going around these days
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If it's not knives it guns, if it's not guns it's drugs, if it's not drugs it's Michael Jackson waving his dooda in a park filled with kids.

Man I am glad I live in a peaceful village where we don't witness these things. All we get here are crowds of spotty, gormless, moronic teenagers hanging around the local shop pulling stupid faces who think it's great fun to stand in the road when a car is passing....... I wish someone would run them over, boy I have come close to doing it many times!
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 3:53 PM Post #9 of 80
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Originally Posted by PinkFloyd
There sure are a lot of brain dead idiots going around these days
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I'd have to agree, and shows like Jackass which glorify acting this way don't help any. I'm not one to argue for government censorship and certainly don't agree with it, but don't we have any sense of social responsibility? Why the hell do we choose to produce this garbage and then put it on tv? Come on guys, if you don't want the damn government involved, police yourself! It doesn't convey any message of value, all it says is "I think it's cool to act like a damn idiot and you should too!"
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 4:13 PM Post #10 of 80
Sometimes kids and even adults do stupid things without thinking of the possible consequences. When I was young and lived in the boondocks I did some really stupid stuff with explosives and firearms. It is chilling to think of what might have happened and the impact on my life if things had taken a bad turn. I hope your intervention helps these kids understand the gravity of their actions.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 4:23 PM Post #11 of 80
elrod-tom: One point for "better safe than sorry", but actually I think you overreacted.

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 4:33 PM Post #12 of 80
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Originally Posted by lini
elrod-tom: One point for "better safe than sorry", but actually I think you overreacted.

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini



If he overreacted, which I don't think he did, it is better than the lifetime of guilt you would have if you did nothing and a tragedy occurs
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 5:05 PM Post #13 of 80
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Originally Posted by lini
elrod-tom: One point for "better safe than sorry", but actually I think you overreacted.

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini



I can understand how you might think this way. However, anyone who thinks it's OK to wave around a large knife in a park full of young kids deserves to explain their actions to the police IMHO. There is simply no reason what-so-ever for these guys to have behaved that way.
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 5:44 PM Post #14 of 80
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Originally Posted by elrod-tom
(...) There is simply no reason what-so-ever for these guys to have behaved that way.


Oh, well - if you're always searching for the reasons why people behave in certain ways, you'll have a busy life...
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john_jcb: Actually, that's what I meant - thus the one point. Nevertheless, I'd still assume that it was probably unneccessary. And then, just consider the cost for the taxpayer!
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Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
 
Sep 12, 2004 at 9:31 PM Post #15 of 80
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And then, just consider the cost for the taxpayer!
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Manfred / lini




The police get paid whether we call them or not.
The right thing was done here.
 

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